Lets Talk Tints

Yep, the “visual aids” just kinda made it real. And, like you said; “new flashlights” were required to make that happen. :wink:
Probably part of my ‘sub conscious’ master plan……… :person_facepalming: … :wink:

I like variety :smiley: , close up work or uses then nichia 218b and 219c work well for me, the former at home and work, the latter again the same. For my work uses i like mules these days, took over from triples and quads for that soft wall of light.
triple 219c

Find 15% output works spot on, bonus with a mule is no bounce back off machinery and not fussy where to position it as it still floods the area even when set down bellow the subject.

Tend to not go bellow 4000k, prefer 4500-5000k ideally and even on my bigger hitters
6x xm-l2 5000k de-domed

I still enjoy the cooler side, sometimes i dont want or care for colours popping out, exaggerated reds and greens etc……………i just want to see colours fairly accurate. Bigger flood beasts or long throwing lights tend to come into this category

This is pretty accurate for 12x xpl’s at 5700k !

The light is my avatar and the x40 in this pic,

Love the infinite control ring UI and the huge copper heat sink that helps the 5000+ OTF wall of light run…………and run…………and run without heat issues for a long time.

I am good with the cool side as long as i dont get angry blues……….

Cheers ven

Good to see you here ven! :slight_smile:

Hey there bro :+1:

Guess it would be rude not to, been guesting it for ages, so much knowledge and seems a real great place of like minded cool dudes tbh. Love the politeness and the way you guys are………………unfortunately i am lacking in my own mods…… But trust me i admire the mods done here, really top notch stuff and take my hat off to you all.

O am a big fan of the s2+ lights(well convoy in general and simon is a great guy). Love the s2+ triples that are part of my rotation, either in 18650 or 18350 form
Dig a pic time……………well you know i like pics mr cross, far right, the red and blue are special (very special made) gifts for me and my son. The red is close to 9a and around 2800lm, the blue dialed back to a little 2000lm for Callum Both around 5000k of huge hot spot usefulness


Yes my lights get used, no real shelf queens, here is a quad xp-g2 5000k in work

:smiley:

3 of my little fav EDC lights part of my rotation, nichia 219B 4000k/219B 4500k and 219C 5000k

Here is the light color tutorial I came up with:
https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/41748

Man I can’t go anywhere without having to be jealous of Ven’s lights. Let’s talk a little tint… Ven’s RC40VNt. lol.
Just kidding, you have a very fine collection Ven and I very much appreciate the pics.

Also tend to prefer neutral tints as the cooler tints give me a bit of a headache especially if getting too blue. Centralized neutral tints do well for me, even if the CRI is on the low side, the colors just seem to absorb more of the light.

Also @teacher, I’m liking those color charts too. They’re interesting to look at.

Thank you for kind words………I enjoy my convoy lights too, in fact one of my longest used is the m2 in a 4c tint(my 1st warmer tint) which is my glove box light.

Not too long back(maybe 3+ yrs) most if not all my lights in use where cool or angry blue cool(knew no different). These days 5000k i find a nice balance, EDC uses maybe 4000-5000k. I still dont mind cools, as long as not too cool. Throwers i am fine with ~6000k but night time/tired eyes i like it a little warmer as it makes my eyes strain less.

I enjoy the 4500k of the nichia 219B around (in/out) the house, which is with me as i type.

“Angry blue cool” hahahahah. The gateway for every flashaholic. Again with more pics of the beautiful lights. Always appreciated.

Thank you, here are some of my work lights(yes i am crazy and have about 10 in my tool box). 3 triples all in solarforce hosts(L2T stainless/L2T/P1D), nichia 219C on the left, nichia 219B in the middle and the xp-g2 triple far right. The latter hardly gets used, its cool and ok, just not as nice to the eye as the others. More beat up as it had the nichia in before.

Just like to have options, break it up a little…………even more so if a mundane job!

as an fyi

one of the reasons CRI (R1-R8) is not the final measurment is because the test omits the range R9-R14. R9 is red and R13 is “flesh tone” did you know that R1-R8 are pastels?

When we speak about good thrower flashlight we must consider energy of foton and frequency of light.
In this case warm light has advantage when we have moisture, dust, smoke etc. in air.

I dont like angry blue

around 5K looks a lot better

but still between 1A tints from Cree there are differences

even if the light looks very nice there is always a bad tint around the hotspot on domed LEDs

The pictures show perfectly what the deal is with low CRI light versus higher CRI light.
Maybe for colour blind people there is nothing to compare.

Hmmm…
Our perception is relative for sure, but our reality is consistent and common. :wink:

Unless photo was color calibrated, the colors seen in the picture are not the same colors seen by human eyes when the picture was taken. But people who can’t wrap their mind around this simple fact are welcome to go ahead and compare them anyway.

Actually, even color-calibration won’t capture the full color space that the human eye sees. For example, RGB monitors (or images) can never show a true yellow color, such as a dandelion flower. Yellow on a monitor will always appear somewhat greenish.

I also find that images tend to exaggerate the tint imperfections more than what my eyes see. Cree LED tints will look greener than they really are, for example.

That said, it’s still quite useful to see images of tints, side-by-side, for comparison. If gives us an idea what the color will look like in person, and if nothing else it gives us a worst-case.

It’s not a matter of getting your head wrapped around your opinion.

I think we, the customers should stop buying cool white lights.
We must teach companies what to put inside.
Unfortunately 90% from people are not familiar with this.

Yeah, but for some reason, newbies tend to actually prefer cool white. And non-flashaholics make up the vast majority of the market.

The best we can hope for is that good companies will produce some neutral tints (or warm), along with their standard cool white. Which is what we’re getting, for the most part. It’s certainly better than a few years ago.