Jaxman Z1 Discussion

Yep, Brett I ordered just about the same time you did and this is all inline with what I got also, I have to reply to a message from Paul so I’ll ask, I doesn’t say much to often, sometimes but I do know he has some health problems and then there’s a lot of other problems BG being one, Manker being one and so on, but if I were to guess with his telling me about the changes being made that the packaging may have ran out and this is what he gets the lights from the machine shop in, my guess

Edit: Paul is the owner

T18, you mean they (customs) just threw all the loose parts in the box and called it “good” :person_facepalming: :person_facepalming: :person_facepalming:

That is truly disturbing……… :frowning:

Yep, let me put some pictures together and upload them, it was a sickening sight I’ll tell you and then the white box was an absolute mystery on top of it all, until I stumbled upon Brett’s comment here, then it was clear and frankly being I paid just what Brett did I to feel a bit ripped off sort of and really this light is completely useless with no reflector,

Please do get those pics up, I would love to see that. Do you know if it was US Customs or before it got here??

Here you go, if you get your package you will know immediately that it was stopped by Customs because well they make it real obvious frankly, Here have a look at how my excitement went from yippee new light to Oh F*** What **&$$****&&&&Y… F*@! Idiots…!!!

What day did Brett say he got his? Mine are date stamped and oh believe this, I was pretty darn mad that’s for sure.

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Thanks U.S. Customs, Border Protection, Idiots and X1 Light destroyers…

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THAT……… is worse than sad. It should be criminal……… :rage: … :open_mouth:

Sorry for your trouble…… :cry: … :cry:

Thanks for sharing T18…. :+1:

Wow T18! I am sorry to learn of this! I had not seen your recent posts on this matter.

Thanks Teacher,
I thought this was just my weird luck and then I see that Brett has weird luck also, but he didn’t get the Customs treatment though and that is just not fair…. ha ha ha, Yes indeed you will know immediately that Customs has just ruined your product, that tape really catches your attention… :smiling_imp: :cry: :confounded: :slight_smile:

Thank You Brett, I wasn’t sure of anything with this white box until you thankfully posted something about it here.
As I mentioned I have been off the forum for just a bit and this thread just happens to be one I keep my eye on, so I stopped to look and see what the mad scientist have come up with lately and first thing I see is that white box… wow… I thought I was just in some weird customs thing and that they had put that box in my shipping box and kept the brown box, I really had no clue whatsoever. Certainly didn’t believe Jaxman sent that to me.
And I it didn’t even cross my mind really to ask when I told Paul what had happened.
I do know there is many problems at Jaxman and it has just been building up since that Cometa incident being that was actually the first time his lights were cloned and with BG being behind all that, that is why the Jaxman lights aren’t at BG anymore but then those cloned Z1’s were sold to us of all things.
Paul is a really great guy and I am positive there is a very good explanation for that white box,
Also knowing he’s making changes to his lights might mean he’s changing up everything about his product, there’s a lot of clone problems going on and right down to that box or so I was told, so it’s all sort of coming together now that I saw your box.
And then throw Customs in the mix and well… I am glad Paul promised to send me a new reflector with the new changed X1 when it’s done so maybe I’ll come out on the upside in the end, but what a dismal day that was when I got a box with Customs tape on it, a first and I surely hope a last, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone else here having Customs do that to a flashlight, what does it look like bomb, a hamburger, or a flashlight?

Good luck with getting that reflector! I hope it works out better for you. Paul has insisted I take a $10 refund rather than a new lens for my light. You can see here

Jaxman thread

As for the shipping, did they mark your customs declarations as “gift”? They did on mine and I wonder if this raises any red flags?

I didn’t realize yours had got nailed by customs also Brett… :open_mouth: What luck for you two………. :person_facepalming:
What is a customs declaration?? I’ve never seen one in any of my ‘China’ stuff’… :question:

T18, I could polish that reflector for you so you can have a working light at least. It usually makes for a nice beam but it might cost a few lumens over a PVD coated reflector. Better than sitting on a parts bag waiting for new arrivals anyway. Your call…

The customs declaration is widely misunderstood. You can look up what “gift” means in your particular country.

For most countries the tax is higher, not lower, on items declared as a gift.
For the USA, “gift” means that you intend to give it to someone else as a gift, not that it’s a gift from the seller to you or that you’ll resell it.

There’s a minimum below which there’s no import tax — lower for gifts than sales — but either way, a single flashlight isn’t likely to cost enough to be taxed.

it’s worth remembering that the insured value — if the package is lost — is the declared value.

So by lying about the intended use (“gift”) and the value, the sender actually sets up the receiver to be in worse shape if something goes wrong.

Not that explaining this makes any difference at the sender’s end. They won’t understand it.

No, actually mine did not appear to be stopped by customs. I was just noticing that “gift” designation on the side and wondered about customs seeing that multiple times and deciding to check it out. I could be way off on this thought though.

Gift, tool, parts, I’ve seen em lie in many ways on the customs form, very seldom is the truth told.

Maybe to stop theft by postal workers…

Well hank, that might be true for the US , here in Europe they love to tax stuff
At around €22 tax is due
And that is VAT, import and fees that all in all start at €32 (~$35) to pay to the mailman. On a $25 light with an honest label not worth buying.
And one has the invoice of something so when something goes wrong along the way no seller has given me bdms about declared value.

I agree Miller, everything I have ever sent to GB or Canada, I have been asked to declare it as a gift!

Right, you have to look up your own country’s definitions to know what the words mean.

Here’s a link for the US rule as of the time I post — Note the attention triggered if multiple packages come through in a single day.

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Again, that’s the current US rule. Your country’s rules may differ; and they do change over time.

Jaxman Z1 with a MT-G2 Q0.

Looks great!.

Much better than the XHP50 that was in it.