Great price! *semi groupbuy* Jaxman Z1 host

It seems that hosts generally have more issues than completed lights.

There is no issue with the hosts at all i think some blf members are a bit sensitive I’m with jax who cares what box you recieve it in. My lens also has a very small chip in the side but once assembled you cant see it either & if you cant undo a tight retaining ring i would find another hobby

His English is shocking which doesnt help and i generally find chinese VERY reluctant to give refunds i probably would have just sent you another one but i guess they work with very tight profit margins.

It’s a really well made light imo everything fits together lovely a lot of time gone into R&D

Image of “chips” in my lens

The hosts are fine.

When I bought a complete Z1 from cnqualitygoods it came in a very small white crappy box. But I don’t care for the boxes of lights for myself.
I did not have any urge to take mibe apart, knowing how much pride Jaxman takes in proper assembly. Hence I bought a host.
I did not looked at the lens, it is in its protection till the whole light is build and tested ready, only then I will touch it.
If some chips like shown above are present it would not bother me, for all I know they are present on the complete Z1 as well, it doesn’t matter since it does not show and I cannot see anything like that as it is assembled or in use. I care about AR coating being there and the proper overal shape, this I do see :wink:

Shipping is not nice, I don’t like it but it is how it is.

I think I pretty well understand what you are saying Brett, and I don’t really disagree with you. But I also think that we may very well never understand the “rhyme or reason” to it or even how the process works. And by “process” I mean the steps that must actually be taken to get a light (in our case) from a manufacturer in China to our chosen ship to address here in the USA.

Whether I, you, or anyone else likes it or not… it just is what it is. Most likely it is not going to change and we can either choose to buy or not to buy.

I fully realize that is a pretty simplistic view point on my part, but I am trying to learn to “choose my battles”. And to me this is one battle I choose not to aggressively ‘fight’. Oh sure, I’ll let my opinion on the subject be known. But even in doing that I also know full well that my measly little opinion is not going to change anything at this moment in the here and now.

It just is what it is…. simple as that.
:slight_smile:

We will just agree to disagree hank. Your analogy about the waiter is incorrect since Paul has twice offered to send a box or even boxes with my next order! This is why I had asked them to simply include a lens in that same box. Simple and logical customer service it would seem.

You keep telling me how “his” time is valuable but go on to suggest that “I” should take my time to package this light and sell it to someone else if I don’t like it. Thus, it is clear you are in defense of the company, which I have seen too many times here on BLF. If I “really, really couldn’t stand” the light I would call my credit card company for a refund. Simple and logical customer recourse it would seem.

On speech recognition in Chinese

I think maybe I did not get my point across. I am not saying you have done anything “wrong” brother or have not been cordial with Jaxman. I am saying, from what I have read that you posted; I think your initial contact with Jaxman went wrong.
1.) think language & cultural barrier 2.) saying less is actually more if it is said straight to the point

How did it go wrong you ask…. :wink:

  1. There was no mention or picture of the crappy white box
  2. No mention of the ‘chipped’ lens

In other words the initial conversation “started down the wrong road” so to speak… through really no fault of your own or even his. (Remember the communication language barrier.)
If in fact this is true… no amount of communication at this point (continuing down the wrong road) is going to get you where you want to be. Continuing down the wrong road probably will not have a harmonious outcome.

I completely understand you wanting to make sure if the light was real, considering when you first posted as far as we knew every Jaxman Z1 had shipped in the cool brown box that almost everyone had raved about when they received their Z1.

And yes, it is totally obvious that you do not want something for nothing… far from it my friend.

And as far as the quality you mentioned, I think if you will take a long hard look at your Z1; you can’t help but see and feel it.

Now, the chip on the edge of the lens………
Well, I can not tell you how to feel about that; neither can anyone else.

I can tell you this though. I have 2 factory Z1’s & 2 host’s (I have not built the hosts yet due to busy summer work schedule… they are a winter project :wink: … ) Until a couple of hours ago I had not even unwrapped the host lens’s & only taken the lens out of one of the factory Z1’s when I first got it.
That changed… just so I could give an accurate report here. :person_facepalming: … :smiley:

  • The “working part” of all four lens are absolutely perfect.
  • 1 factory & 1 host have no (zero) chips or imperfections of any kind on the mounting (non-working) edge
  • 1 host lens has a microscopic ‘inclusion’ on the outside edge of the mounting (non-working) edge
  • 1 factory has a minute ‘chip’ on the inside of the mounting (non-working) edge

Nothing mentioned above has or will have any consequence at all on how light shines through the lens. Nor does it in any way affect the high quality of the light in a negative way.
Therefore it does not ‘bother’ me in the least bit. That is how I feel about that.

As far as keeping your boxes, there is not a right or wrong answer to that. And no one, myself included; has any business telling you how you are to feel about that. That is personal preference, nothing more.

Just so happens I keep all my boxes and clean my tools also. :+1:
Does that make me right or wrong? Nope, it is just how I do it. If someone else wants to burn or recycle theirs, good for them. I’ll keep mine, good for me.

Now seeing as you have had someone offer to send you a box, *IF* you wanted to; you could PM said person your address and have them rescue their box from the recycling bin and mail it to you.
Could possibly be a way out of (what I personally see as) a no win situation my friend.

But only you can decide that buddy. :wink:

I will let you know for sure when I am coming, I still have your number.
But, unless something falls completely apart; God Willing I will be there this winter. :+1:
:wink:

Oh yeah, the above are just my thoughts on the matter, nothing more. I do hope you will consider them though……

Hmm now it is getting a bit too much off topic.
Teacher says it very nice above me.
I saw the strange white box and things are also discussed in the general Z1 topic and there was some recognisement so please continue there :wink:

On topic, I see new hosts were ordered, can’t wait for the builds!
I was really stuck on a MTG2 but my Olight R50 is not nice in terms of tint and has a large reflector hole so I am thinking about putting the …… Nah, how the MTG2 looks in the Z1 is so nice, I go order a driver for it :wink:

What a cool picture. I bet a skate boarder or a BMX rider would love that slick ramp on the right. :wink:
Especially if the lights were off and it was lighted by a couple of Z1’s. :+1:

I totally understand what you are saying buddy and yes I was very vague initially and yes, that was intentional. It was intentional because I was approaching this from an investigative point of view. I wanted to see if this white box was something not done at all by Jaxman Co. which would be a clear indication to me that this was a fake. Remember I am not just dealing with Jaxman here but also AliExpress, so I had many concerns about this being a fake or a second quality.

Anyway, as you stated earlier, this thread is about Z1 builds and I apologize for hijacking this thread! I honestly had good intentions of trying to communicate with Paul in the kindest way possible while still getting my issues resolved. Last night I mentioned to him that I could simply call my credit card company for a full refund and Paul’s alleged “new keyboard” issue (he told me the all caps were because of a new keyboard and not yelling) was suddenly resolved and the all caps as well as his tone changed. Much like I stated previously regarding the PayPal claims with GBs, this threat of full action seems to be the most effective way in dealing with these issues. I won’t need to ask here anymore about how to kindly resolve these issues because this will be my tool of choice. So, I would like to kindly drop this issue from this thread and I again apologize to all for taking this thread off its intended course.

Thank you ‘The Miller’, I do have a lucid moment from time to time. :smiley: … :+1:

I, like you; can’t get away from the thought of using a MTG2 in one of my hosts. What sold me on it were the fantastic beamshots a few guys posted a while back in one of the Z1 threads. They were amazing……… :slight_smile:

So, I am starting to get my parts list together and get the stuff ordered real soon and headed my way.

At this point I am still undecided on what to put in the second host. Although I might build it and sell it, then go with the great idea ‘hank’ mentioned about having more than one Z1 pill and changing them out. I like that idea……… :+1:

Your a good man Brett, stuff happens; with all of us sometimes. :slight_smile:
Just remember, as I try to each day; the shared words below of someone famous… (not quite sure who…… :wink: … )
They can apply to many things…………

“Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast”.

ciao brother…………… :wink:

EDIT………… Oh yeah, have you decided what LED’s you are going to use in your Z1 hosts??

Thank you brother! I am just a “work in progress”. Nothing more, nothing less. :slight_smile:

I have not decided what LED’s to use yet but then I have some time while I wait for aliexpress shipping. Although I love the round beam that Dale got in his build, I do know that I will be looking for the highest output possible, as well as the fact that I absolutely want to stick with a single-cell light because I like the size of the Z1 without the extension. So, that eliminates a few of the LED’s mentioned in this thread as they require the higher voltage.

I understand that completely…. same here. :wink:

I understand, but you might as well get one that has an extension tube; cause when you see the one I will have this winter with the MTG2 in it you will forget about that second battery and be wanting one too. :smiley:

When those guys posted the beam shots of theirs with the MTG2 a while back……. I was smitten. :wink:

Later………… :slight_smile:

Haha, I am not sure you will convince me. :wink: I should have clarified, I don’t mind some multi-cells as long as they are in a parallel configuration. I just don’t like any of those long-bodied lights.

I won’t have to do any convincing, the light will do that on it’s own I think. :wink:
Plus, and I just measured; it only adds 2.75 inches…….
We’ll see. :slight_smile:

Ooops… Could someone with calipers please check the ID of the lens cap, I think I will be needing a new one.


Oh WOW, You know that scenario had crossed my mind and is why I remove batteries before capping the lens. Yikes, that is more than I imagined…

Edit: Give me a second… 51.96mm

Thanks! Is 51.96 the ID of the cap, or the OD of the bezel on the light?

One of the first times I used this light, I pulled it out of my bag in the dark. I pushed the button, but couldn’t figure out why nothing was happening. It took me longer than I should admit to realize the cap was on.

On the second day of ownership I was playing around with the light while cooking dinner. I turned it off, put the cap down, and set the light on my dresser. A few minutes later I walked past the light sitting there and thought, “imagine if I left that on? I better go double check.” I picked the light up and the results are pictured above. I’m lucky that I had the random thought to go double check the light or the damage could have been worse. I was also lucky that it was facing downwards, I don’t want to think about what would have happened if the light was facing upwards and the cap melted all over the lens.

Since then I’ve started to always unscrew the tailcap when setting the light down.