HaikeLite XHP70 Thrower Prototype Sneak Preview

I wonder how this light will to vs the acebeam k60? Or the convoy l6? What other competitors are there?

From the looks of the deep reflector, it’s sort of a TM03 enlarged, without the proprietary wedged mode ramp on the tail cap. And with more cells. And more output. And more options. And more thermal mass. And uh, pretty much the same price if you get a deal on the Tiny Monster. :stuck_out_tongue:

All around a tad smaller than the K60, but heavier. _the_ has a review of the K60 posted here with some nice beamshots, comparing a classic thrower like the TN32: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/34430 . I'd expect this light's beamshot to be similar to the the K60 because of same emitter, close to same reflector size. The K60's reflector is probably a little wider, and slightly shorter, so the flood width should be a little greater with the K60.

Think'n the HaikeLite will have a little more lumens, so the throw will be in the same range as the K60, might be better. _the_ measured 158 kcd, so I'd expect in that neighborhood. This is all pure speculation if the reflectors are comparable quality and LED's are effectively the same.

The HaikeLite reflector is 72mm I.D. while _the_ measured 82 mm for the O.D., so dunno for sure how they compare. The I.D. is what matters the most.

OD is 78MM

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any news?

Prototype is coming along, believe it's complete - might have been sent out already. Wait'n to hear back.

I feel like Cartman waiting for the Wii.

I couldn’t wait for the review. It’s been ordered. I can make good use of this one.

Hey guys there website is here.
http://haikelite.top/index.php/

That link is in the first post too.

Tom E, did you find out if your review light has shipped? I have no indication that mine has shipped yet, but I just ordered it yesterday. Is anyone else reviewing it? To be clear, I’m not reviewing it.

I’m waiting only XHP35 Hi + SMO reflector version.

I have some doubts in the claimed lumen values too. According to djozz measurements the N2 bin emits 4600 lumens at 7 amperes. For the N4 bin the Cree Product Characterisation Tools shows an advantage of about 7.6 % over the N2 Bin. This would imply less than 5000 lumens at the best for N4 bin. And losses (lens e.g.) have not been taken into account yet.

No, no word at all. Think'n there's been delays, but not sure. Waiting for a pm or a post here.

Have you checked on Dale's #'s for his XHP70's? I trust his measurements more than specs at this point. I know modders have gotten at least 6,000 lumens but not sure of the amps. They might be quoting estimates based on raw LED output at those amps, not sure.

Edit: Just checked my notes, and have to agree with you guys:

My Convoy L6 with an R100 resistor mod using a N4 2A XHP-70 LED:

  • On LK5000's @4.20V: 7.24A at the tail/clamp meter, @start: 4,801 lms, @30 secs: 4,553 lms, 96 kcd (taken at 5m) for 620 meters

Of course there may be differences between the two lights (drivers, MCPCB's, reflector, lens, etc.), but I definitely think a comparison has merit, and it's "in the ballpark". Mine and Dale's #'s are always close since we use the same meter and same PVC light box design made by the same guy. Also note I measured amps at the tail, not at the LED so possible that 7.24A is lower (or higher?) at the LED.

Just more fyi

Though it's a new company, these guys are experienced at launching new flashlights as you probably could tell, and with the recent change of the firmware as requested by us here for keeping turbo in the main list of modes, I'm sure it added days of delay. They do want to be sure the light is as solid as could be upon launch, so I don't mind waiting a little longer to be sure it's more fully tested. I work in the firmware/product business so I know what happens when you think you are in the final days - the typical 5% rule: 95% done, but the last 5% takes 50% of the time thing...

I think this holds true for so many businesses. I think you can apply the 20/80 rule here as well; the last 20% of the work requires 80% of the effort. I was personally quite impressed with how fast Haikelite implemented the changes into their design. This was actually a point of concern; I hope they don’t rush things… Simple things like the button plate that was recently manufactured; is the light still waterproof? It probably is, but you know, this kind of stuff is in the back of my mind…

Just got word! Sample should be shipping this weekend for the review. The delay sounds like it was getting the flat finish anodizing done well - not too flat so won't mark up as easy.

you reviewing the light Tom E?

the single XHP70 thrower or tripple XHP70 ?

Yes - this light in this thread, the thrower - actually the model name is MT07, while the flooder is the MT03, both shown/listed here: http://haikelite.top/index.php/products.html. Dunno why, but the OP is not updated to show the new model name.

I should be getting the CW version, N4 bin.

cool

looking forward to the review for triple XHP70 flooder :smiley:

6000 lumens sounds awfully optimistic. I’ll be disappointed if they can’t meet their own claim, and even more so if it can’t match a stock Convoy L6. That said, I just need it to light up the dumpsters from the bay door of the shop. A mildly modded 6x XML SRK can almost do it.