Micro-Textured Lens for Solarforce Flashlights

excellent, looks like a lighter (more professional ) version of the DC fix (which it s what i have on my solarforce).

I got the lens yesterday and I was able to try it on one of my solarforce lights with an xhp70 led. It definitely reduces artifacts in the beam and helps reduce the black doughnut in the center of the led. I noticed that it’s more noticeable when I have the light on high rather than on the low setting. I tried the lens on both OP and smooth reflectors and it helps with a better beam on both reflectors. I was only able to try it on a white wall and didn’t have time to try the light outside to see if there was any noticeable differences in throw to the naked eye. I’ll report back once I have more time to play with the lens. But so far it seems like pflexpro has found another trick to improve upon p60 lights.

PFP,

Very curious about your MT lens. I have several ‘mule’ P60 drop-ins using XR, XP, and N219 emitters. I’ve tried diffusion plastic, tuf-film spray and textured plastic insert to smooth the light, all w/ varying degrees of success. I’ll watch for test updates and pricing. Good luck w/ your product.

Got mine in the other day and it works wonders. I tested it in my Solarforce with a hard driven 219C and SMO reflector. The rings in this light have always driven me nuts, this all but removes them and I do not see an impact on the amount of light out the front. I will try and capture good pics this weekend of the results.

Just got mine today, haven’t had a chance to test it yet… Will get to it in the next few days for sure!

It’d be great if these could also be made in the 21mm(?) Tube light size.

My guess is you’re looking for something for a triple.
I could have a sheet cut at 20.25mm for the S2/S2+ lights but it would be in a lot of lenses. If there is enough interest, it would be no problem.

Have you held it in front of a triple to see what it looks like?

Not necessarily a triple. I think it would have more impact on a single emitter light, like my EagleEye X2R. I already use frosted (narrow) optics on my triples and quads, so I don’t think there would be much benefit seen there for me.

Simon is selling the SMO reflectors now for the S2+. You were saying they probably wouldn’t be effective with the OP reflectors.

It would be very effective with the S2+ SMO optics. I have a couple of them now and they would improve with this. And, they would still have more throw and a more concentrated hotspot than the OP reflector! The Olight S10R would also like this glass in front of it.

That’s good news…but where’s the smooth reflector for the M1?

When I have more lenses cut, I will order some for the S2/S2+

If the price is reasonable, I would love to have this lens for all of my reflectored S2+ and C8 lights.

Yesterday I put together a S2+ with SMO reflector + XP-L HI and there are some unwanted artifacts in the center spot, same with the new clear C8 which doesn’t produce a beam as clean as the older v3 batches, it has an ugly corona and the spot is not as smooth, it also produces about 5% less kcd which is a bit disappointing. The best C8 reflector I’ve used was from a thorfire C8S.

I have interest in the s2 size.

I’m afraid the price for C8 lenses would be too high…the material is very expensive. Even though, I think it would be great in a C8, - the lens would be almost 2.5 times larger, and it would have a lower cut yield because of the larger size, so it would end up being an $18 lens
The P60 and S2/S2+ lenses are small enough so the price isn’t crazy.

I decided to try my sample with the ultimate challenge: The XP-G3 4500k 90cri in a smooth reflector.

I give this product a thumbs up.

No, it doesn’t fix this emitter. The tint shift is still ugly as sin with green blue and yellow all in one. But I did see a noticeable improvement over how it was without the micro texture. One thing I notice about this vs a frosted lens, the coating/texture/whatever doesn’t “glow”. With other effects it looks like the lens itself has become the light source, with this you can still see through it to the emitter and reflector when the light is on, it’s just a little blurry. That tells me it isn’t blocking the amount of light frosting does. Hopefully that makes sense.

I do think you should price out a run to fit the S2+ and other tube lights, I’d buy one or two.

Been playing with the one I got as well, just busy with work for the next few weeks so no pics. This is amazing and like PD68 said above, the lens itself does not look like the actual emission surface. Good way to put it PD68, I could not place what was so different about this lens and its treatment prior to what you posted.

Putting this in front of a smooth optic (20mm) makes an even smoother look to the beam. Not a “holey moley” difference, but a good one for someone that wants a different look on a clear optic.

In front of my SMO reflector lights, this is EXACTLY what is needed to make a beam that can be used far or near, indoors or out and just looks right. Incredible stuff you have here Randy, I would guess you got your idea from a Kindle or other dedicated glare free device, that is the only thing I can think of. On a sheet of paper in the sun, the lens is glare free, but for flashlights, a little bit off the emitter makes for a beautiful beam from the micro textured lens.

Great stuff! This will be on any light I order from you!

I would also order this as a lens separately as well….

I’ve added some output and throw test to the original post.

I should have the MT lenses available for the S2/S2+ lights in about 2 weeks.

Alright so after a busy work week, I finally got around to putting the lens in my Solarforce L2N lego…

Here’s what it looks like before the swap with an AR lens I got from KD:

Ceiling shot with AR lens (don’t think my old Samsung S3 camera does a good job of showing much here):

Getting ready to do the lens swap here:

Micro-Textured lens installed:

All put back together:

Ceiling shot… from which yeah, my Samsung S3 camera sucks for this type of shot :frowning: :person_facepalming: :

As you guys can see, my ceiling shots don’t show any difference because a combination of me not being a photographer and the old camera on an old phone just wasn’t able to capture. From what I can see is yes I saw no visible difference as far as light output between a regular AR lens and this MT lens, which is great. To my eyes, the Micro-Texture lens does definitely have a subtle smoothing effect on the beam without muddying it up like a heavy orange peel reflector does. It’s too bad a large size lens would be cost prohibitive as I too think this would be a great lens for a pocket thrower like a C8…

That being said, this PFlexPro Micro-Texured Lens gets 2 big thumbs up from me! :+1: :+1:

Just got mine as well, and should have some more detailed feedback shortly.

One thing I noticed (that I didn’t catch initially) was that there is protective film on BOTH sides of the lens. At first I only noticed/removed the film on the more obvious side, as the other side didn’t appear to have any film in place. Also, the attached instructions states to install with the textured side out, and that the clear film side is textured. So, at first I thought there was only one “clear film” side. At least on my sample, the film on the non-obvious side was on there very good and perfectly round. It actually took a bit of effort to get the film off that side once I finally realized it was there.

So, to all that received these as samples, be sure to take the film off both sides! :beer:

Edit: Mini-review up:
PFP MT AR P60 Lens Review

The Rayovac beast uses a lens like this. It uses an mkr or another 4 die led but the beam is flawless