[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

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[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

(PART 2 Continued here)
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/59610

  • The 3rd batch of PM’s will go out in the next couple days! Please check the new thread for more info.

[23 Mar 2018] Neal and Lumintop are back in full contact now after CNY. We are sorting through issues and preparing for the next batch as quickly as possible. If you have an open issue please fill out the BLF GT outstanding issues survey
Please only fill out survey one time and only if you have already paid for an order and have an issue. Thanks.

[20 Mar 2018] Due to this threads massive size it was causing the BLF server to break down and/or be very slow. Please go to the link above and subscribe to the new thread (bottom of post #1) or just post in it to be automatically subscribed. Subscribe to the new thread for the latest news.

[14 Mar 2018] Pi Day! M4D M4X is putting together a list of active issues for the GT. This is ONLY for those that have Placed an order and have an outstanding issues that needs to be addressed. This is NOT for tracking number requests, these will be handled separately. Please only fill this out if you have a real issue that needs to be addressed, I don’t want it to get bogged down with other stuff.

The results of this survey will be compiled into a list and sent to Neal to be addressed. Please be as specific as possible when filling it out but also try to keep to the important information to make it easier for Neal to understand. Remember, english is not his first language.

BLF GT outstanding issues survey

Once these issues are fixed we will proceed with the GB, shipping should be much faster since lumintop is stockpiling the reflectors.

[12 Mar 2018] Lumintop and Neal sent out the final 50 orders from the existing orders today, tracking numbers should hopefully be available by the end of the week.

[11 Feb 2018] Lumintop and Neal worked together to send off a final 185 lights before the Chinese new years celebration. China will be shut down for the next few weeks and we do not expect any updates or news until the end of the month. So please remain calm and hold your questions until the end of the month. At that time we will sort out the remaining orders that have not been shipped and try to deal with any outstanding issues. We expect to send out the next batch of PM’s around the end of the month’ish

[3 Feb 2018] Lumintop graciously agreed to pay for the extra shipping costs out of their own pocket to some countries. Our end of the deal is that we will charge these costs up front with the next batch of orders. Only the smaller / remote countries are effects for the most part.

[30 Jan 2018] The 3rd batch of payment PM’s will be postponed until after the China New year to minimize wait time. Plus nothing will happen until after it is over anyways.

[30 Jan 2018] Lumintop should have the registered mail issues sorted out and is hoping to ship most of the existing orders before the Chinese new year celebration that starts next week. This assumes that enough reflectors show up and they are good enough quality.

[29 Jan 2018] Click the link for information regarding the issues surrounding registered mail shipping.

[10 Jan 2018] The PM’s for this account “Team-Giggles” have been disabled for the time being as no one actively monitors them right now. Please contact Neal or Texas_Ace with any questions instead.

[6 Jan 2018] The Group Buy is officially closed! The lights will go on sale with the normal Lumintop outlets after the GB orders are complete sometime in the next few months. The retail price will be $250. Thanks to everyone that made this possible!

[5 Jan 2018] BREAKING NEWS The group-buy will end today. If you do not have ‘I want one post’ in this thread by the end of today (no idea which timezone], you will not be able to buy the GT at the group-buy price.

[5 Jan 2018] The official GT team user account takes over the top posts in this thread from TheMiller’s private user account.
The following members have access to the GT team account:

  • TheMiller
  • Texas_Ace
  • Tom E
  • DEL
  • JasonWW

[27 Dec 2017] The GT started to ship. Shipping will continue as they roll off the assembly line. Production rate is about 200 units per week. The first two batches shipped to the US (for logistical reasons).

From our omnipresent JasonWW:

JasonWW wrote:
LATEST NEWS

A 6th shipment of 50 lights (the last of the current orders) went out on March 13. Appearantly it was a smaller batch than 50 as more lights are shipping during the week of March 19-23.

Neal is sending out tracking numbers. Some packages have already started arriving.

The next group (3rd batch) to purchase lights (#1050 and up on the list or who signed up after 10/23/17) will get their PM/ emails in March (Maybe. Keep reading for details). This minimizes wait time and also gives Neal time to finish up the last shipments from the people who already paid.

Texas_Ace will decide when the PM’s go out. It should be some time after ALL the current orders are shipped out and any missing or incorrect orders are corrected. We should get a few days advance notice.

You can see if you have a tracking number for this 5th shipment by going HERE and filling out the form.

A 5th shipment of 185 lights went out on Feb 9th. This includes registered packages. So this means about 800 of the 850 lights have shipped. The next shipment of reflectors should take care of the last 50 orders.

I moved 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th shipment details to post #12000

DHL shipping was very fast and is recommended for all USA buyers in the future.

The “slowish” shipping is due to the large reflectors being slow to produce. Lumintop is only receiving about 150 reflectors per week. So we should see about 150 lights ship every week.

Of the first 1049 people on the list that have been able to pay, about 850 have ordered.

Initial quality has been fantastic. A handful of people have gotten opaque black switch covers instead of translucent black. Replacement switch covers are being sent on a case by case basis.

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Nvanlaar’s links.

Here are the 2 paid lists. Keep in mind the second one is not complete, but maybe they are helpful to a few people.

Neal’s Paid/Shipping List for first 555 – Updated Dec 15

Neal’s Paid/Shipping List for #556 to #1049 – Updated Dec 10.

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M4D M4X: For all people who want to let us know the value that should be declared on the parcels:
please take the BLF GT customs declaration survey.

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M4D M4X: You can buy 8 of the button top Samsung 35E batteries (seem ideal, high mAh and good amps) for $40 when you buy your GT. No sign up required for these.
Battery details are here.
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Video of DHL box Drop Test


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This account is NOT actively monitored and PM's have been disabled for the time being. Contact Neal, Texas_Ace or one of the other Team members directly if you have questions about your order.

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*Original OP Archive*_…as compiled and maintained by TheMiller until 5 Jan 2018. The history of the GT is here. Note that not all details are valid anymore._

The First post in this thread will have the latest updates and “change log” moving forward. This post will have the specs of the production light and the next post will have the list of those on the GB list.

Official GT support thread with all your post-purchase questions and the manual

Optional Samsung 35E are $40.50 if purchased with the GT.

Team:
Tom E: Narsil development
Texas Ace: PCB design
MRsDNF: Communication
Thijsco: CAD analyst production / design
Fritz15: CAD analyst production / design
M4DM4X: sales
Neal: contact in China well connected in flashlight world.
5AR: Original CAD design inspiration
JasonWW: Thread and information management

User manual
BLF-GT user manual draft13.pdf
(The first production run shipped with revision 12 of the manual. The revision 13 changes are minor.)

Chinese translation by steel_1024:
BLF-GT Chinese user manual V1.2

Joe’s excellent cheat sheet for the GT
Cheat sheet

NarsilM firmware development thread
NarsilM thread

NarsilM 1.2 source code and ready-to-flash HEX files
NarsilM 1.2 files

Texas Ace’s review of the final prototype before production started. Your light should look pretty much like this:
Prototype 2 review

Narmattaru’s review of the production light.
Click here

VOB’s Prototype Review video

VOB’s un-boxing video of the production light

VOB’s Using and Programming of the light

Specifications

  • Emitter:
    12 V Cree XHP35 High Intensity, neutral white 4000k, mounted on copper 44.5mm DTP MCPCB
    Flux: >2000 lm
  • Intensity:
    >1 Mcd (ANSI throw >2000 m)
  • Firmware:
    Tom E’s open-source NarsilM v1.2
  • User interface:
    • By default the GT is set to use the very intuitive Narsil smooth RAMPING UI. Instant access to a 2.5 A TURBO mode is also provided.
    • A more conventional discrete level MODE-SET UI is available as an alternative. Any one of 12 pre-defined mode-sets can be selected.
    • MOMENTARY mode is useful for signaling purposes or rapidly/briefly lighting up targets.
  • Battery:
    Four or eight button-top 18650 cells (4S1P or 4S2P). Protected cells are recommended. Cells are not included.
  • Driver:
    35 W, 2.5 A regulated buck driver with conversion efficiency that exceeds 90%. Parasitic drain while OFF is ~150 μA (~250 μA with button back-light on).
  • Reflector:
    118 mm ID, aluminum, smooth finish
  • Lens:
    Glass with anti-reflective coating
  • Body:
    Aluminum with Type III hard-coat anodizing
  • Tripod socket:
    Standard 1/4 inch threaded (1/4-20 UNC)
  • Button:
    Tactile with back-lit rubber boot
  • Ingress rating:
    Equivalent to IP65, do not immerse in liquids
  • Weight:
    Approximately 1.8 kg without cells
  • Weights According to Hunter1
    BLF GT
    with batteries 2273 g (8 × 35E)
    tail-cap 91 g
    one battery holder 64 g (empty)
    one battery 48 g (35E)
    one battery holder 259 g (with 4 × 35E)
    two battery holder 518 g (with 8 × 35E)
    battery tube 285 g
    BLF GT head 1379 g (with screw 1381 g
  • Dimensions:
    135 mm Ø head x 310 mm length
    85mm fin OD at button
    56mm battery tube
    62mm battery cap OD

Got a reply from the NASA contractor that is using the GT for research today now that they have had some time to play with the GT, I will quote part of it it below

Quote:
FYI, we measured the divergence of the central spot. It is 16 mrad (0.9 deg) or 16m spot diameter at 1 km.

By the way, excellent design! Congratulations!

I would say that is an endorsement I can be proud of Big Smile

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From Steel_1024:

From Texas_Ace:

From Pok:

Left to right. Thrunite TN42, BLF GT, Astrolux MF02.

From JasonWW:

From 5ar:

This is not perfectly accurate, but is pretty darn close.

From Alux:

Full Size Picture of Above
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reserved for Quotes of user tests and information about the GT.

Emitter tests from Maukka:

At maximum ramp level (2 amp) measured 4100K at a perfect tint of duv -0.0009.

(click for full size)


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Runtimes with 4 cells only:

MRsDNF:
Talking about things happening here is a run time chart with the BLF GT proto Narsil running Two Amps at the end of ramping.
The runs were stopped when the low voltage kicked in for the first time.
(This is a battery comparison at 2A. Note that the 3500mah cells have extended run times after it falls out of regulation, blue line.)

MRsDNF:
This chart is a comparison running the BLF GT on high, the original Narsil at 2.5 amps and the proto Narsil at 2 amps. Both runs were with 30Q batteries. (This test is only about comparing 2A runtimes to 2.5A. The 2A red line stays in regulation much longer.)

Texas_Ace:
Also remember that those runtime tests are with the short tube 4 cell version, 45 mins from 4 cells before even dropping out of regulation! That is properly good.

So expect about double that from a long tube with a full 8 cells.

About 1.5 hours of full powered runtime and another ~1.5 hours before it hits LVP.

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Thermal pics from Lawallac

Within a few seconds of turn on.

After running about 2 or 3 minutes.

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Here is the official final list for the GT Group buy.

Use Ctrl + F in your web browser to search for your user name on the list.

It will show your name int he first row.

The second row will show how many you have signed up for and what numbers each of them were

The 3-5th rows show how many GT's you are / were approved to purchase from each set of PM's.

The 3rd set of payment PM's has not been sent out yet. Do not purchase any from that batch until you get a separate PM for it around mid-late January 2018

Also, do not use an old payment PM to purchase additional GT's above what you were approved for.

 

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Nice! Was about time though

And ofc i am interested

XHP35Hi high CRI vs a good W2/3…especialy since it would be a long term project…aint sure about that, especialy with those new coming xpl2 and future xpl2 hi

in a 94mm the picture under so-so reflector a dded V5 deals nearly 650k cds at 5 amps

I have still to dismantle the TN42 to test it out with a nice w2

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Nice idea! But 8 cells?

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It’ll work with 4 Smile

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120mm? geez….

What’s the price target? $100?

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I’m ok with 8 cells, but it better be one hell of a thrower!
You guys planning on cracking the 1Mcd with that 12 cm reflector?

If the price is decent…I’m in!

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Great !

I think too 8 cells are a lot . 4 are ok Wink

Also , count me in too , for any help the team needs .

Edit : Please don’t start an interest list , it will turn into chaos with the expected results

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High CRI!
Count me in.

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Dang dude, you are really pushing the limits here. Two custom and unusual light projects at the same time! Heck yeah, I am in!

Keep this up and make the work… you will generate some real BLF envy.

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I am in

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Im in this one as well! Big Smile

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The debate is lumen vs throw. It will be a big light so will we be happy with a 1400 lumen XP-L HI and try to hit 1Mcd?, or will we settle for 700kcd with a 2000+ lumen XHP35?, or go 4000 lumen / 300kcd with a XHP70? (numbers are a very fast guess)

My first feeling is that in a light this big I expect more than 2000 lumen, even though that implies that maximum throw for the reflector will not be reached.

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I’m in for a couple high quality hosts IF you can get them made first, before the multitude of requests and idea’s and other BS start’s flowing in, I have the drivers, boards and LED’s already.

It can’t be that hard just copy the TN42 with a bigger reflector and keep the carrier 4S, easy peasy, then just slap BLF on the side? If you have too?

Let the games begin! Facepalm

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I need to blind my neighbors a half mile across the lake. I’m in

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Oh yeah, I’m in! Shine on.

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Wow, I am in. Depending on price.

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djozz wrote:
The debate is lumen vs throw. It will be a big light so will we be happy with a 1400 lumen XP-L HI and try to hit 1Mcd?, or will we settle for 700kcd with a 2000+ lumen XHP35?, or go 4000 lumen / 300kcd with a XHP70? (numbers are a very fast guess)

My first feeling is that in a light this big I expect more than 2000 lumen, even though that implies that maximum throw for the reflector will not be reached.

+1

It is usually a compromise between lumens and lux. One direction to go is multiple reflectors/emitters, like a bigger TM16GT. This way one can get lumens and lux as long as the separate reflectors make good use of the available area and are driven well.

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Too much unsure so I will start keeping the interest list later down the path Wink
For now just think along

Basic ways the same as the Q8:
Designs open source
No money/profit for the team, just the fun of doing it
Open about and for as much as possible Smile

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I’m in for sure, make sure there is a good copper heat sink in there somewhere.

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Interested.

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Cool!

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I’m interested too…but…where does it end, lol? Instead of starting with a 120mm reflector why not a 160mm? It’s best to start big instead of small due to the fact that newer, bigger, and better will be out before you know it. It’ll take a little longer for a manufacturer to best it if you build it big. The Eagletac M25C2 Turbo that I modded with a fet and dedomed XM-L2 U4 1A has a 92mm reflector and does 636,763cd. My wife calls it the plunger because the head is so much bigger than the body but it throws like crazy. I’d still like to be able to hold the light with one hand though, so 160mm may be out of the question…unless a handle is added…

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CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.

 

Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.

 

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I’m in!

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Would prefer 4 cells instead of 8 (in fact not interested at all if 8 cells). Go for max lux over lumens (plenty of flooders or compromise beam lights around).

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CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.


 



Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.



 

Is it not too deep? It’s just a question…I’m not into the whole measuring the angle of the beam thing…it just looks really deep to me. I guess that would product more of a spot?…than spill?

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