I thought LEDs did better than 20% though, Djozz’s XP-G2 will probably survive then.
Mirascope hologram maker
Mini mirage 3d.
Price: EUR 7.50
I thought LEDs did better than 20% though, Djozz’s XP-G2 will probably survive then.
The led will be reflowed on the middle of a copper bar, 3mm thick, on average 15mm wide, and 90mm long, so the heat can go in two directions 45mm far. After that it is spread out over an aluminium plate. I’m ok with the led running at 100degC I guess….
Sounds like it is made already but I have done nothing yet
The led will be reflowed on the middle of a copper bar, 3mm thick, on average 15mm wide, and 90mm long, so the heat can go in two directions 45mm far. After that it is spread out over an aluminium plate. I’m ok with the led running at 100degC I guess… Sounds like it is made already but I have done nothing yet
But 95mm isn't even close to the diameter of the reflector?
A 95mm heatpipe would be good from the center to the edge, but not the full diameter, if you're talking about the 6" one.
BTW thanks for the info on these cheap mirascope reflectors :) checking some out right now.
I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
So for the 9inch version the optimal size would be 135mm, and that may even get close to the 1 Mcd (well, 900 kcd). But as said, can’t get that one for cheap, let’s first try this one.
I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
I hope you’ll try if more will work too, because the idea is to collect / catch as much light as possible / sensible / worthwhile.
djozz:I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
I hope you’ll try if more will work too, because the idea is to collect / catch as much light as possible / sensible / worthwhile.
Collecting that last bit of light (the less intense light) will not add that much extra light (lumens), but the extra area of the reflector (going from 90 to 120mm) will add a lot more throw, assuming the reflector is shaped well enough to be focused. The light reflected from the outer portions of the reflector would make a very small hotspot.
djozz:I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
I hope you’ll try if more will work too, because the idea is to collect / catch as much light as possible / sensible / worthwhile.
I did try what the complete reflector did, but as I was sort of playing around I did not write it down. I did give more throw but not much more, and the light will be a whole lot bigger.
Jerommel: djozz:I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
I hope you’ll try if more will work too, because the idea is to collect / catch as much light as possible / sensible / worthwhile.
I did try what the complete reflector did, but as I was sort of playing around I did not write it down. I did give more throw but not much more, and the light will be a whole lot bigger.
I understand, and that’s why in my mind it should catch about, hmm… 120° probably, but not less.
But i have no idea of the measurements of your parabole, but i think you’re around 90° with your idea (?)
I just wish i had a prab. reflector to experiment with and see for myself…
Jerommel: djozz:I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
I hope you’ll try if more will work too, because the idea is to collect / catch as much light as possible / sensible / worthwhile.
Collecting that last bit of light (the less intense light) will not add that much extra light (lumens), but the extra area of the reflector (going from 90 to 120mm) will add a lot more throw, assuming the reflector is shaped well enough to be focused. The light reflected from the outer portions of the reflector would make a very small hotspot.
Indeed, because the distance to the LED is biggest around the rim.
I did some research, it seems like the best cheap option for a parabolic reflector is these "3d mirascope" toys that djozz brought up, which come in 6 and 9 inch sizes.
They are not perfect, there are a lot of complaints about easy scratching and cheap plastic, but the coating seems pretty good as long as you handle it carefully (as you always should).
The two best ones are the mirascope 6 inch https://www.amazon.com/Toysmith-79747-3-D-Mirascope-6-Inch/dp/B000N5T8KA
And the mirage 3-D 9 inch https://www.amazon.com/Mirage-3-D-Instant-Hologram-Maker/dp/B0002W3J7M
From the reviews, these have the clearest image and least aberrations.
I put in the measurements into a ray tracer and it captures slightly over 120 degrees from the focal point, which is almost perfect for using with an LED.
I plan to buy the 9" one some time and test things out myself, if it works as expected (the other guy said he got 300-400kcd) then I will try to buy a professional glass reflector for myself with similar size and focal point.
$7 is a great deal for a reflector of this kind, and 6" is pretty close to what you were looking for so I highly recommend you try the 6" mirascope one out :)
I did some research, it seems like the best cheap option for a parabolic reflector is these “3d mirascope” toys that djozz brought up, which come in 6 and 9 inch sizes.
They are not perfect, there are a lot of complaints about easy scratching and cheap plastic, but the coating seems pretty good as long as you handle it carefully (as you always should).
The two best ones are the mirascope 6 inch https://www.amazon.com/Toysmith-79747-3-D-Mirascope-6-Inch/dp/B000N5T8KA
And the mirage 3-D 9 inch https://www.amazon.com/Mirage-3-D-Instant-Hologram-Maker/dp/B0002W3J7M
From the reviews, these have the clearest image and least aberrations.
I put in the measurements into a ray tracer and it captures slightly over 120 degrees from the focal point, which is almost perfect for using with an LED.
I plan to buy the 9” one some time and test things out myself, if it works as expected (the other guy said he got 300-400kcd) then I will try to buy a professional glass reflector for myself with similar size and focal point.
$7 is a great deal for a reflector of this kind, and 6” is pretty close to what you were looking for so I highly recommend you try the 6” mirascope one out
I just decided to order one, i hope i can find one of similar quality / the same product for under 20 bucks shipped. (i’m not exactly Bill Gates…)
120° sounds great to me.
6 inch is bigger than i had in mind originally though, but so be it.
Thanks.
djozz: Jerommel: djozz:I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
I hope you’ll try if more will work too, because the idea is to collect / catch as much light as possible / sensible / worthwhile.
I did try what the complete reflector did, but as I was sort of playing around I did not write it down. I did give more throw but not much more, and the light will be a whole lot bigger.
I understand, and that’s why in my mind it should catch about, hmm… 120° probably, but not less.
But i have no idea of the measurements of your parabole, but i think you’re around 90° with your idea (?)I just wish i had a prab. reflector to experiment with and see for myself…
Wait. Did you guys miss what happened? Djozz says that with the complete reflector, the throw was greater and the beam was larger… not or, and! How could this be a bad thing?
emarkd: djozz:Perhaps that is one one the reasons why there are no recoil flashlights on the market?
Well there’s more than none on the market. A search turned up this one, for instance. I’m not saying its a good light, only that it is out there. This idea has been tried before, just not to great effect.
Sold out, like the good old Ultrafire UF-007. It was an interesting light but not worked out as well as could be done (pretty low-driven XR-E led).
The Ultrafire UF-007,is not sold out. Shop by Category | eBay
I found one in Netherlands:
Mini mirage 3d.
Price: EUR 7.50
Will it be a good one?
Here they are in bulk, minimum 480 pcs @ $2.50 a piece:
3d Mirascope Instant Illusion Maker Educational Toy For Kids - Buy Funny Education Toy,Magic Education Toy,3d Illusion Maker Product on Alibaba.com
The Ultrafire UF-007,is not sold out. Shop by Category | eBay
At the time the Ultrafire UF-007 sold for under $20. Those prices are way over that and then, I do not trust them to have them really in stock.
djozz: emarkd: djozz:Perhaps that is one one the reasons why there are no recoil flashlights on the market?
Well there’s more than none on the market. A search turned up this one, for instance. I’m not saying its a good light, only that it is out there. This idea has been tried before, just not to great effect.
Sold out, like the good old Ultrafire UF-007. It was an interesting light but not worked out as well as could be done (pretty low-driven XR-E led).
The Ultrafire UF-007,is not sold out. Shop by Category | eBay
Those prices… :confounded:
Theodore41:The Ultrafire UF-007,is not sold out. Shop by Category | eBay
At the time the Ultrafire UF-007 sold for under $20. Those prices are way over that and then, I do not trust them to have them really in stock.
ebay store ‘hkequipment’ has 5 available for 42 bucks there:
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for UltraFire Uf-007 UF007 Recoil CREE LED Flashlight Torch at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
Crazy…
Jerommel: djozz: Jerommel: djozz:I’m not going to use the full 6 inch, but a 9mm section (~3.5 inch). I have a feeling that that is a sort of optimal size/throw combination for this reflector.
I hope you’ll try if more will work too, because the idea is to collect / catch as much light as possible / sensible / worthwhile.
I did try what the complete reflector did, but as I was sort of playing around I did not write it down. I did give more throw but not much more, and the light will be a whole lot bigger.
I understand, and that’s why in my mind it should catch about, hmm… 120° probably, but not less.
But i have no idea of the measurements of your parabole, but i think you’re around 90° with your idea (?)I just wish i had a prab. reflector to experiment with and see for myself…
Wait. Did you guys miss what happened? Djozz says that with the complete reflector, the throw was greater and the beam was larger… not or, and! How could this be a bad thing?
Sounds good to me.
6 inches diameter for a flashlight is rather laaarge though…
But, it can be flat in all, but it’ll still be a biiig light…
I trust hkequipment! So there are some around….
I trust hkequipment!
It a well known store around here, so yeah.
So there are some around….
Apparently, but why so expensive?
New old stock vintage classic hype?
But what do you think about that mirascope from gadgetstore.com?
Should i do it?