Let’s see maybe it’s common for lower end budget lights, but if your in the Game to make mid and upper end lights then NO! I can deal with a spec or two, not this, but then I guess it all depends on what you want to settle for, low performing not to spec, filthy reflector blow it out and it remains, dirty glass lens, you clean it, and then it leaves scratches in the AR coating, naw not me!
Ya. I understand.
My one got 4 amps at tail cap with normal multimeter leads. So it’s running normal power.
Update: I can not get higher then this reading. Some thing weird is going on. I think the driver may have a weak component?
Just checking…… Do you mean a Utorch or Manker?
Lol Utorch
Got three of them, 2.47a, 2.34a and 2.8a at the battery. The 2.8a one is CW other two are NW. I'm not sure if that helps.
Looking like edsg’s is the exception rather than the rule.
I was going to buy one and have a friend test it, give me a perspective from a new user point of view, but if it’s going to be problematic I’m not sure if I should proceed or hold on and see what shakes…
When i have news from gearbest I’ll write here …
In other news its still over 1000 lumens easy? Its as brighter then my EE X6 with a XPLHI running direct drive that light is a 3000k tint but its running at 5.5+ amps. It is way brighter then a stock L2. My Utorch is the NW tint.
That’s COOL! :+1: Lucky I have a stash of great lights new in the box, Nitecore’s for my two friends that I thought I was getting a deal on for them for. I pretty much given up on the little boosted XHP35 lights, after the Manker and the BTU PK26 POS! I have (2) TN42’s one is modded, with a de-domed XHP35 E4 1C running a Linear driver at 3.01 amps, the other bone stock and (3) T90-2 SD75 and a Jax X6 big reflector XHP35 lights at 2.81-3.0 amps so little lights don’t impress me! But these were meant as gifts. As it stands, it’s in Gearbest court waiting for their reply, but it is tempting to take one of these apart and play with it!! Oh so tempting!!! 
Yea it’s a hard choice the power we are seeing and the kcd is still more then achievable from a single die emitter. Even just a xplhi running at the same amperage will out perform this set up.
But it’s some thing different. It’s not a setup every one has. I have a spare xhp35 single cell driver here.
I want to de-dome a XP-L W2 and try it out in one of these little thrower’s and a dome on in the other, should be quite the little pocket (Jacket pocket ) thrower. So I’ll wait, but in the meantime I’m keeping myself busy with a TK61 XHP35 HI E4 1C build, match it up against my TK61V4vn, just for something to do! 
Got mine today. But they sent CW instead of NW. Oh well. Pretty nice little torch.
Please someone with a fresh battery can offer the values at 3 meters with luxmeter?
Tanks.
On a Manker U21 for LJ (Light Junkie) with tail clamp meter got 5.93A, 1,780 lumens, and 253 kcd measured at 5m. This is using a dedomed XPL W2 1A from the AliExpress source, but not trusting it's a true W2 bin. But it did perform slightly better than my U21 modded the same way with a dedomed XPL V6 0D (~1,1710 lumens, 240 kcd).
I think these #'s are not bad for the reflector diameter, smaller than an HD2010 size, bigger than a C8.
Now that is pretty sweet! :+1:
I love the form factor of this light. Not longer than a C8, shorter than most, nice 26650 capacity and performance, bigger reflector/more throw than a C8, and quality finish. Just didn't like we could not get Manker to work out a deal - they would not take a nickel off the price (frustrating for our BLF group buy/discounters guys) and I guess GearBest was as frustrated as we were. To me it's one perfect mod host.
Just the way I like it.
Yeah, as a host only for a reasonable price I’d buy it. Similar in size to my short Convoy L2, has the advantage of a momentary switch.
But my L2 outthrows the Utorch with XP-L V6 dedomed.
Sure, I got lots of lights that out throw this light, but the L2 is not as pocketable as this light. Yes, I have an L2 that does 282 kcd @5m, lots of HD2010's, a few MaxToch throwers, a TN31, a BOSS1, a K40, 1504's, etc.... If I go out on a hike, The U21 or this UT02 can make the trip, but the L2 and larger lights will be sitting home.