This might be the last thing I say about this whole thing… might not. But I do hope everyone who has not done so will read back through some of this and realize just who really intruduced the majority of the ‘drama’.
I for one would simply like to know what ‘fritz 15’ was referring to when he wrote about us “not really knowing what is going on”. That is not “drama”…. it is asking a man to explain what he wrote.
I was just referring to MortyDuck as he was implying to know what we, as in the other designers, have done or have not done. I did not mean to open up more questions and I apologise if I gave rise to more discussions. To be honest I lost the overview of who said what or who did what and just try to keep myself out of all of this.
OK, thank you for the clarification ‘fritz 15’, I do appreciate that. And it was all “drama free” too. 
OK…. in post 2210 it was stated by The Miller (who as far as I know is “in charge” of this) that ’5ar’s design was still “one of the two options”.
I have read every post after 2210 at least once and I find ‘The Miller’ saying nothing contradicting what he posted. It seems others have, but not the person who (as far as I know) is in charge of this.
So which is it, is the ‘5ar’ design in or out?
This question is not about “drama”… it is asked in hopes of getting a “drama free” straight forward answer from ‘The Miller’ the person who made the statement. Hopefully, a straight forward answer will do wonders in avoiding further drama and things not being crystal clear.
Having a very clear vision on how the projects I am deeply invested in should be done. As open as possible, and this requires the people in the team to act a certain way to make it work. Gently and keeping the high spirit despite negativity some people will bring, make things that could be seen as negative not so, and in a short period fires are put out.
Right now I see two methods being mixed, and causing problems.
This is costing me energy and will not stop since I see now two fundamentally different approaches are making this harder then needed or then the project and BLF deserves, I apologise for not acting on this sooner and taking this step long ago when it became clear my way of doing it does not work in this setting.
Brr the horror that people see me as being in charge, there are/were lots of projects being done with people actually in charge and one of the reasons for starting the Q8 the way I did was because I have the vision this is not needed and was very lucky the Q-team as a whole acts in such a way to make it possible to have the enormous positive flow I know BLF to have in many aspects :THUMBS-UP:
No disrespect of other ways, they have proven to work fine many times.
Apologies for wasting time and energy trying to get the Q8 flow going here, and not seeing forces are against that.
I can be considered out of the process and will just update the OP and first posts, when team members send me a PM or email with what you want posted and where, I'll do it.
No problem in having different approaches but trying to mix the two proves to be not working fine and that is a shame. It also takes time and energy better spent on other things.
Good luck making this monster a reality :THUMBS-UP:
That was certainly enlightening, thank you. But somehow the one question that was asked went unanswered……… 
Have said what is being done.
Nothing to add
Specially for you Teacher, Keep Moving Ahead 
Is there still a team of flashlight enthusiasts trying to bring this monster to life?
Teacher, I’m working with/on that design so at this point it is still in.
To everyone, if you want to have the gt made please drop this discussion.
There is nothing more to say, all important questions are answered and everything you need to know is said.
We will give an update when we have one.
Thank you ‘thijsco19’ for answering my simple question. :+1:
Not surprized, but it makes no difference; ‘thijsco19’ was gracious enough to provide a simple, uncomplicated answer.
Thank you, I shall endeavor to move ahead always, hopefully you shall also…. as well as Forever Upward. :+1:
Ahead & Upward…. despite bumps in the road, a great combination.
“To everyone, if you want to have the gt made please drop this discussion.”
Amen.
Drop the drama and if need be, let the moderaters filter it out.
Let’s stick to the subject and move on.
I’m still in!
Grtz
Nico
I al interested. Count with me for 1
Me too
Err… drop the conversation??
What’s going on here? I’m totally lost. There has been literally 90% less banter on here for the last 2 weeks, than anytime before.
I’m getting the impression something is going on certain members don’t want us to know about. If the conversation is to be “dropped” why even start a GT thread?
This is BS. All the drama is over, we want answers and updates and now we are being told to not discuss anything?? Bollocks. 100%.
Are you referring to this one:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1617/10006828/1543306-110mm-aluminum-smooth-smo-reflector
Yes doesn’t that look just awesome!
Thank god. I just wanted to cut the crap before it started all over again.
This is exactly what I ment with ‘drop it’. There is nothing “going on”.
Obviously I was referring to all the drama. Its perfectly fine to talk about the GT. (might be better if I’ve said drop the drama)
All that need to be said from the team is said. There are no updates at this point afaik, all the questions are answered.
I don’t understand how it can be so extremely cheap? Even the smaller ones listed there are more expensive!
So,if there is a order of some hundreds of 120mm mirrors,the asked price would be a bit more expensive and not way expensive.