New VirEnce MCPCB for E17/E21/119/144/233U

Thanks, Clemence. My 144a build is all ready to go minus the board. Hoping that everything will go smoothly and they will be available by the end of February/early March.

Update 170208:

Change of plan: the design will be completely different. No thermal pad required to make things simpler. I’ll get back to here when it’s done.
Really working hard on it! Stay tune

Any updates Clemence?

Copper version: Highly dependent on premium good thermal pad, complicated or limited design by nature. Pricey end product complete package and the least application friendly. Especially for us who often change the LED. For plug and forget it’s relatively OK, but not so much.

Aluminum nitride version: Simplest higher performance potential, yet brittle and still pricey [on my ends]. Still looking the best vendor and material combinations.

Aluminum nano ceramic [dielectric] version: cheapest so far, but I really don’t like the idea of using aluminum substrate when I know there are many superior options out there.

Still on it….

- Clemence

Thanks for the update.

Just stumbled around here to briefly check this out…

Heard good things about the aluminium nano dielectric stuff in the past, to the point of ordering a “nano” MCPCB from FastTech, though MessTech ended up sending me a copper DTP board instead (which was marked as “discontinued” on their site… :facepalm: ). Didn't complained.

Cheers fellows ^:)

Basically it’s just a nano meter thick anodizing/passivation method to create a non electrically conductive surface. What’s so special are the processes to make extremely thin passivated layer and make it solderable. Even though the thermal conductivity is just ~7 W/M.K, the thermal resistance (which really matters) is extremely low due to the super thin dielectric material created.
For low power this technology is superior (cheap, reliable, effective) but for our purposes it’s not the case. We still need same or better material like copper to spread the heat faster.
I read your post somewhere in CPF about this MCPCB. The use of word “Nano” (which already over used as marketing gimmick booster by many chinese products) really turned down people :laughing:
They didn’t even bother to further learn about it. But, I read it Bark :wink:

Any updates?

Is the footprint on this board what I need for this LED?
http://www.leds.de/en/High-Power-LEDs/Nichia-High-Power-LEDs/Nichia-SMD-LED-UV-NVSU233A-without-PCB-emitter-395nm.html

Hi,

there is another solution for this LEDs

Use a Cree XPL or XML DTP board, solder the LED+ to one pad and the cathode to the DTP area
for the XPL you need to scratch a bit paint off to widen the solder are for the anode
solder LED- to the star

insulate the back of the star with Kapton Tape or use a host with battery carrier that is isolated from the body

Here you can see it: Skyray King SRK mit 3 x Nichia 144A sm453 R9050 | Taschenlampen Forum

I think Kaidomain.com boards are perfect for that, because their traces are as wide as the pads.

Good idea!
But it still has the same problem as clemence’s PCB. The heat of LED is, according to him, distributed evenly through both contacts,

Interested. I never tried other footprint LEDs because there were no boards for them.
1* and 4* 16 mm is a good choice to start with.

With Cree coming with the NX leds and now Osram with the compact Ceramos led your 16mm board may become more and more interesting for small flashlight use.

Any updates?

The last update was that the proto should be shipped within 5 weeks. That means it’s still 3 weeks to go

Ok, thanks.

Looking forward to those quad boards. Plan to use 4 of them with a quad optic, 16 total emitters, then put a large diffuser over the front to make a high CRI lantern. Host is a JKK36 from Kaidomain.

Will be a nice emergency lantern since it uses 3x18650 for good runtime, and has a built in power bank function in the cell holder. So I can charge my devices with it at night, and charge the lantern with a solar panel during the day.

Update: 171016:

- 60 pcs prototypes shipped!

Not any more…