Am I on everyones ‘ignore’ list?
Very excited to see the drop test, doing it with cells in makes me think they were pretty confident. After the first few drops I was chanting ‘open it, open it!’
The Miller, can you bump me from 2 light to 4 lights please?
Lol, like an idiot, I dropped a brick on my little toe a 6 months ago. Broke my toe.
anyone else see them switch the packages as he turned his back to the camera?
just kidding
About the alarm clock thing, we don't have a RTC (Real Time Clock) or much equivalent, and for the timers we currently use, I think I'm seeing a hefty delta off of what I thought. I think I'll have to run some independent timer tests. We use two methods of timing: a roughly 16 msec interrupt, and a delay loop based on processor time to run a specific sequence of code. I'm suspecting the delay loop method doesn't take into account interrupt servicing, so the delays are longer than I think. Also, the 16 msec interrupt may be off as well (takes longer).
In the latest Narsil version, I introduced yet another interrupt handler for AtoD conversion (when the AtoD completes) for both temperature and battery voltage readings, code contributed by DEL, so this might be the cause, or part of the cause. With some of the slower blinks (like battery voltage or temp reading), the blink sequence is definitely slower compared to the old version, though the delays are coded the same.
Drop Test - I would love to see some close up pics of the light, and yes, taken apart, check those cells, etc. Need to examine:
NO NO, just that Dimking was not the first to talk about it and easier to get to quote made me quote that. 
Yeah I as totally surprised they turn it on after unpacking.
Yes will update list soon!
I was thinking the same thing...
It would have been nice to see the package throughout the entire video. 
There’s practically no padding in that box. Surely it would break or dent if dropped on a non-padded and carpeted floor, right?
It’s the same 1000 people constantly coming back to this thread. LOL
I doubt it, breaking is not really an issue, scratches are a bigger one but I doubt that will be an problem.
That carpet looks like the thin outdoor style commercial carpet, hardly padded at all. I think the test is more then good enough.
Agree, plus without batteries installed, the flashlight will be lighter weight anyway.
The box clearly had some damage to it.
Look at the feet of the chair in the background, it does not have casters or large feet, and there is no obvious crater around them. Which leads me to believe that, while there may be carpet on the floor, there is probably no padding under it. Never underestimate the ability of a shipping company to damage a box, but it looks like Thorfire is trying.
I’m confused. What was the point of doing a drop test? Was it to test the packaging or the light? I assumed the packaging.
My assumption of the test was that it would be dropped from 1 meter onto a concrete floor. This would test the box and padding quite well.
If it’s going to be shipped in an unpadded, small card board box, then why do a drop test?
Is the cardboard box also going to be in a padded envelope? If so, then that’s how the drop test should be done. In the box with the padded envelope on a concrete floor.
Am I right here or missing something? :question:
The test is to show that the light itself will survive shipping, which they have proven quite nicely. And with the worst possible circumstances too boot.
There is a concrete floor under that thin layer of carpet.
Who cares if the box is damaged, I use the light not the box. Although I do assume that a bubble mailer will be used during shipping but that only improves things. No reason to test it like that, I prefer this test, the worst case scenario and it still passed.
Oh my gosh I cringed every time it hit the floor! I wanted someone to stop him! LOL
I apologize to all for not posting more feedback on the Q8 protoype. Life has gone a bit wonky and I haven’t had much time for testing but I will post more soon and try to get a few decent beamshots.
I don’t see any possible way this light will fall short of being a huge success. It’s just very well executed all around from build quality to Narsil topped off with insane lumen numbers. I was out on my front porch playing with the Q8 prototype with my 11 year old son the other night. You can’t make this stuff up…
My wife thinks it’s hilarious that my 9 and 11 year old kids know flashlight terminology that is just gibberish to her.
Makes a father proud to hear his son say
The one thing I will say is some of you are going to be tuning back the step-down timer. At 3 minutes being handheld on a night that was somewhere between 45 and 50 degrees Fahrenheit it was getting uncomfortable to hold when it hit the 3 minute step-down. Touching it at the head I didn’t want to keep my finger on it for more than a second. It wasn’t at the point that it would cause burns but I’ll probably tune that back a bit before the next round of testing.
Tom PLEASE give us lightning! That sounds WAAAY too fun. :+1:
Too funny! Wants to be a flashlight geek when he grows up!
Yikes! Maybe I'm used to hot lights 
, I certainly have enough of them... Also the cells make a big difference - fully charged, low resistance will definitely generate more heat.
I was debating making that 3 minutes down to 2 minutes. Should still be able to change that I hope...
Actually, dunno if the one step down is sufficient to keep it running cool enough for a full drain test. I think the proper test is worse case cells (maybe VTC6 or VTC5A's), fully charged doing a full drain test starting on max. Then we can see if the single timed step down is enough - checking outer temp of the body periodically. Temperature regulation is safer in how it's implemented for this light.
Hhmm - could "back up" the timed stepdown with thermal stepdowns, just using a higher temp point, like 65C or so.
Good video.
It clearly shows that light, in that packaging; can survive 12 drops to that floor from a distance of around 4.5 to 5 feet…… and still work. :+1:
Did anyone else notice the “feather crack” in the lens at about 2 o’clock besides me?
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Just kidding……….
Great video…. but the sandals stole the show imo. 
Put me on the list please
For as much as I've tried to avoid getting lured in, this thread is hard to not reply.
Is the Bronze color available on the final release? It's a beauty!
The collaboration among everyone involved, really creates some nice flashlights.
Added: I like the idea of the tripod mount.
As mentioned, it's a nice feature to use the light for taking pictures. Which I will use it for!!
Please put me on the list for two, if I am not too late. :)
Two minutes or even 90 seconds might be a bit more muggle friendly. It will still be hot enough to terrify the unenlightened!
To be fair, now that I’m thinking about it, it was only handheld maybe 50-75% of that 3 minutes. 30Q button tops were fully charged BTW. I set it down a few times for attempted beam shots and L6 beam comparison.
The heat spread nicely throughout the entire body with the head of course being the warmest. It was holdable at 3 minutes in the normal tube-grip area. It’s only at the head that it was a bit too warm for comfortable holding. People that aren’t used to modded lights would probably chuck it and run. :laughing:
I handed it to my wife when I came back in from testing and she yipped with a “What the heck!” as she almost instantly let go of it. She’s among the unenlightened at least in personal use. She likes her lights tame and simple. The Q8 I’m happy to say is neither tame, nor simple. This is a grown-up’s flashlight. :+1: