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Anyone noticed the “reads” count lately?

With “ONLY” 6355 posts, there are 458,913 reads! WOW!


It’s the same 1000 people constantly coming back to this thread. LOL

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There’s practically no padding in that box. Surely it would break or dent if dropped on a non-padded and carpeted floor, right?

I doubt it, breaking is not really an issue, scratches are a bigger one but I doubt that will be an problem.

That carpet looks like the thin outdoor style commercial carpet, hardly padded at all. I think the test is more then good enough.

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There’s practically no padding in that box. Surely it would break or dent if dropped on a non-padded and carpeted floor, right?

I doubt it, breaking is not really an issue, scratches are a bigger one but I doubt that will be an problem.

That carpet looks like the thin outdoor style commercial carpet, hardly padded at all. I think the test is more then good enough.

Agree, plus without batteries installed, the flashlight will be lighter weight anyway.

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There’s practically no padding in that box. Surely it would break or dent if dropped on a non-padded and carpeted floor, right?

The box clearly had some damage to it.

Look at the feet of the chair in the background, it does not have casters or large feet, and there is no obvious crater around them. Which leads me to believe that, while there may be carpet on the floor, there is probably no padding under it. Never underestimate the ability of a shipping company to damage a box, but it looks like Thorfire is trying.

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I’m confused. What was the point of doing a drop test? Was it to test the packaging or the light? I assumed the packaging.

My assumption of the test was that it would be dropped from 1 meter onto a concrete floor. This would test the box and padding quite well.

If it’s going to be shipped in an unpadded, small card board box, then why do a drop test?

Is the cardboard box also going to be in a padded envelope? If so, then that’s how the drop test should be done. In the box with the padded envelope on a concrete floor.

Am I right here or missing something? Question

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The test is to show that the light itself will survive shipping, which they have proven quite nicely. And with the worst possible circumstances too boot.

There is a concrete floor under that thin layer of carpet.

Who cares if the box is damaged, I use the light not the box. Although I do assume that a bubble mailer will be used during shipping but that only improves things. No reason to test it like that, I prefer this test, the worst case scenario and it still passed.

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Oh my gosh I cringed every time it hit the floor! I wanted someone to stop him! LOL

I apologize to all for not posting more feedback on the Q8 protoype. Life has gone a bit wonky and I haven’t had much time for testing but I will post more soon and try to get a few decent beamshots.

I don’t see any possible way this light will fall short of being a huge success. It’s just very well executed all around from build quality to Narsil topped off with insane lumen numbers. I was out on my front porch playing with the Q8 prototype with my 11 year old son the other night. You can’t make this stuff up…

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The one thing I will say is some of you are going to be tuning back the step-down timer. At 3 minutes being handheld on a night that was somewhere between 45 and 50 degrees Fahrenheit it was getting uncomfortable to hold when it hit the 3 minute step-down. Touching it at the head I didn’t want to keep my finger on it for more than a second. It wasn’t at the point that it would cause burns but I’ll probably tune that back a bit before the next round of testing.

Tom PLEASE give us lightning! That sounds WAAAY too fun. Thumbs Up

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Too funny! Wants to be a flashlight geek when he grows up! Big Smile

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Yikes! Maybe I'm used to hot lights smile, I certainly have enough of them... Also the cells make a big difference - fully charged, low resistance will definitely generate more heat.

I was debating making that 3 minutes down to 2 minutes. Should still be able to change that I hope...

Actually, dunno if the one step down is sufficient to keep it running cool enough for a full drain test. I think the proper test is worse case cells (maybe VTC6 or VTC5A's), fully charged doing a full drain test starting on max. Then we can see if the single timed step down is enough - checking outer temp of the body periodically. Temperature regulation is safer in how it's implemented for this light.

 

Hhmm - could "back up" the timed stepdown with thermal stepdowns, just using a higher temp point, like 65C or so.

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Good video.
It clearly shows that light, in that packaging; can survive 12 drops to that floor from a distance of around 4.5 to 5 feet…… and still work. Thumbs Up(just guesstimating on the 4.5 to 5 feet… can’t read the tape.)

Did anyone else notice the “feather crack” in the lens at about 2 o’clock besides me? (logo being 12 O’clock)
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Great video…. but the sandals stole the show imo. Wink

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For as much as I've tried to avoid getting lured in, this thread is hard to not reply.

Is the Bronze color available on the final release? It's a beauty!

SRKB

The collaboration among everyone involved, really creates some nice flashlights.

Added: I like the idea of the tripod mount.

As mentioned, it's a nice feature to use the light for taking pictures. Which I will use it for!!

 

Please put me on the list for two, if I am not too late. Smile

 

 

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Tom E wrote:

Yikes! Maybe I’m used to hot lights smile, I certainly have enough of them… Also the cells make a big difference – fully charged, low resistance will definitely generate more heat.


I was debating making that 3 minutes down to 2 minutes. Should still be able to change that I hope…


Actually, dunno if the one step down is sufficient to keep it running cool enough for a full drain test. I think the proper test is worse case cells (maybe VTC6 or VTC5A’s), fully charged doing a full drain test starting on max. Then we can see if the single timed step down is enough – checking outer temp of the body periodically. Temperature regulation is safer in how it’s implemented for this light.


 


Hhmm – could “back up” the timed stepdown with thermal stepdowns, just using a higher temp point, like 65C or so.


Two minutes or even 90 seconds might be a bit more muggle friendly. It will still be hot enough to terrify the unenlightened! Big Smile

To be fair, now that I’m thinking about it, it was only handheld maybe 50-75% of that 3 minutes. 30Q button tops were fully charged BTW. I set it down a few times for attempted beam shots and L6 beam comparison.

The heat spread nicely throughout the entire body with the head of course being the warmest. It was holdable at 3 minutes in the normal tube-grip area. It’s only at the head that it was a bit too warm for comfortable holding. People that aren’t used to modded lights would probably chuck it and run. LOL

I handed it to my wife when I came back in from testing and she yipped with a “What the heck!” as she almost instantly let go of it. She’s among the unenlightened at least in personal use. She likes her lights tame and simple. The Q8 I’m happy to say is neither tame, nor simple. This is a grown-up’s flashlight. Thumbs Up

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how about testing the package in water
once i order the light, they arrived at airport when it’s raining Facepalm , when it came to my house, the water ruined the package, and the accesory in it(not much, just an useless instruction)

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Again, I assume they will use a waterproof shipping pouch, but I could be wrong.

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Looks like the Q8 will at least have a fighting chance against Danish Postal, but i must underline that those guys can dish up mind boggling incompetence.

But i guess that’s a trademark of most postal carriers, or at least those still tucked in firmly under the gooberment wing.

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how about testing the package in water
once i order the light, they arrived at airport when it’s raining Facepalm , when it came to my house, the water ruined the package, and the accesory in it(not much, just an useless instruction)

Won’t the flashlight itself be somewhat waterproof? They all seem to claim IPX-8 so rain on the package should do little more than damage the box.
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Won’t the flashlight itself be somewhat waterproof? They all seem to claim IPX-8 so rain on the package should do little more than damage the box.
Good point. That would be a cool test video though….. turn that bad boy on and drop it in a bucket of water for 5 minutes or so. Wink

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This sounds very interesting. Please add me to the list for one flashlight. I am converting an old Surefire P9 to LED/rechargeable right now, but this new flashlight should also be an excellent alternative.

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Thanks for the update with the drop test video.

Very impressed with Thorfire and the BLF dev team Thumbs Up

Looking forward to getting one of these in my hands

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mrheosuper wrote:
how about testing the package in water
once i order the light, they arrived at airport when it’s raining Facepalm , when it came to my house, the water ruined the package, and the accesory in it(not much, just an useless instruction)

Won’t the flashlight itself be somewhat waterproof? They all seem to claim IPX-8 so rain on the package should do little more than damage the box.

If the box gets wet and soggy the light will come out and then get lost in shipping. No light for you. Sad
Also a soggy box will not protect it in a fall. It will get chipped or scratched for sure.

So staying dry is very important.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonWW2000

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I can’t recall a package from asia that did not come in a plastic bag of some sort.

I get that water/rain can cause damage to the box itself and the contents but I just don’t see the rain getting through to the box in the first place.

the packaging allways kinda locks pretty simple, basic and bad, but so far I have far more problems with lost shipments (including customs) than with damaged goods. So I’m happy with the droptest and whatever packaging thorfire will come up with.

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mrheosuper wrote:
how about testing the package in water
once i order the light, they arrived at airport when it’s raining Facepalm , when it came to my house, the water ruined the package, and the accesory in it(not much, just an useless instruction)

Won’t the flashlight itself be somewhat waterproof? They all seem to claim IPX-8 so rain on the package should do little more than damage the box.

If the box gets wet and soggy the light will come out and then get lost in shipping. No light for you. Sad
Also a soggy box will not protect it in a fall. It will get chipped or scratched for sure.

So staying dry is very important.


The plastic bag which gearbest used to protect package was not damage much, but it’s not water proof, so, thing happened
Thanksfully it is a keychain light

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JasonWW wrote:
fixed it wrote:
mrheosuper wrote:
how about testing the package in water
once i order the light, they arrived at airport when it’s raining Facepalm , when it came to my house, the water ruined the package, and the accesory in it(not much, just an useless instruction)

Won’t the flashlight itself be somewhat waterproof? They all seem to claim IPX-8 so rain on the package should do little more than damage the box.

If the box gets wet and soggy the light will come out and then get lost in shipping. No light for you. Sad
Also a soggy box will not protect it in a fall. It will get chipped or scratched for sure.

So staying dry is very important.

All of the lights I’ve received from China, including lights from Thorfire, have either been in one of those grey padded bags, or wrapped in padding that was covered in yellow tape. I don’t think the package getting wet is going to be a problem.

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I can’t recall a package from asia that did not come in a plastic bag of some sort.

I get that water/rain can cause damage to the box itself and the contents but I just don’t see the rain getting through to the box in the first place.

the packaging allways kinda locks pretty simple, basic and bad, but so far I have far more problems with lost shipments (including customs) than with damaged goods. So I’m happy with the droptest and whatever packaging thorfire will come up with.


I live in tropical country, you know, rain is very heavy, the plastic bag absorb the force, not the water

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<—-trying to imagine 6000 lumens aimed at a deluge of rain. Gonna light some stuff up, for sure! Maybe not very far away, but like a miniature city’s worth of light coming out of your hand with all that rain to act as a diffuser! Big Smile

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For as much as I’ve tried to avoid getting lured in, this thread is hard to not reply.


Is the Bronze color available on the final release? It’s a beauty!


SRKB


The collaboration among everyone involved, really creates some nice flashlights.


 


Please put me on the list for two, if I am not too late. Smile


That would be a no on the “Bronze Color”. That was done by baking it in an oven.
Soooooo, you could do it yourself if you wish. Just be sure to disassemble it first of course…….. Wink

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Hahaha cute J-Dub74!
Looking forward for N
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Yes the idea was packaging (so including the protective thing around the box)
But dropped more and from higher then asked so I am cool with this Wink

Welcome new members, will update list later.
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Thanks, The Miller.

 

Thanks, Teacher.

I did not read the entire (not even close!) build thread.

In the oven for the bronze!! I think the color is very stylish.

 

 

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