#GB36 Utorch UT03 3x CREE XHP70 9,000lm+ Flashlight - Official Group buy Thread

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#GB36 Utorch UT03 3x CREE XHP70 9,000lm+ Flashlight - Official Group buy Thread

UT03 PROTOTYPE

Updates:

17 May 2017  -   More fins added into the design.

Product Link: Proceed to Store

Price: $XX.XX

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SPECIFICATIONS

  • Emitters : Cree XHP70
  • Emitters Quantity : 3
  • Tint: Cool white
  • Lumens Range : >9000 Lumens
  • Luminous Flux :10000Lm
  • Luminous Intensity :22100cd
  • Beam Distance :200-300m
  • Maximum beam distance: 297M
  • Battery Type: 4*18650
  • Waterproof Standard: IPX-8 Standard Waterproof (Underwater 2m)
  • Lens: Toughened Ultra-clear Glass Lens with Anti-reflective Coating
  • Flashlight Processing Technology: Aerospace Grade Aluminum Body with Anti Scratching Type III Hard Anodization
  • Brightness / runtime ( Cree XHP70 ):
  • Working voltage: 11.2 - 16.8V ( over discharge protection )
  • Dimension: 122mm(length) x 62.6mm(head) x 54.2mm(tube)

Proposed upgrades based on prototype

  1. Neutral White tint Love
  2. Increase output (to at least 9000lm)
  3. Improve the quality of the reflector and LED gasket/ centering ring.
  4. Orange peel reflector.
  5. Direct thermal path Copper MCPCB.
  6. Increase wire size.
  7. Better soldering technique.
  8. More heat radiating fins to dissipate enormous amount of heat generated.
  9. Chamfer for fins.
  10. Flat bezel instead of crenelated.
  11. include 1/4" mounting hole for tripod.
  12. Spring height adjustment - to accommodate both protected and unprotected 18650s.
  13. More grip for tailcap.

UI

  • Group 1
    moonlight: 0.1 - 10Lm / 240h; (programmable through "engineering mode")
    low: 60Lm / 22h;
    mid1: 200Lm / 12h;
    mid2: 600Lm / 8h;
    high 1200Lm / 2.5h;  
    turbo 1 ~3300Lm (measured)
  • Group 2 (double click)
    turbo 2 10000Lm /1h (double click when ON)
    strobe 8050Lm
    SOS
    Beacon
    Breath Flash
  • Long press from OFF to access last used mode 
  • e-lockout: with single-double-triple click sequence
  • Engineering mode: press and hold to turn OFF the light; give 4x quick clicks once the indicator light turns ON.

 

Edited by: freeme on 06/23/2017 - 03:30
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EXPRESS YOUR INTEREST IN THIS THREAD (NO PM please) :

TARGET: 500 / Current: 124

Updated on June 22, 2017

  1. Freeme
  2. Michael Chiong FDD
  3. Southland
  4. JasonWW
  5. ZozzV6
  6. casi29061965
  7. casi29061965
  8. Mstevens113
  9. Charga
  10. Bruno28
  11. Bruno28 (depends on 1st order)
  12. Angel Martínez
  13. Ozythemandias
  14. mizou51
  15. -Rick-
  16. Gerrh
  17. hunter1
  18. hunter1
  19. I_SpY
  20. I_SpY
  21. stanley-beamish
  22. MagPap
  23. Anthon
  24. L4M4
  25. Enelooper
  26. kommessy
  27. myst999
  28. myst999
  29. patmurris
  30. Phantom1
  31. Phantom1
  32. leaftye
  33. tzmxxhh
  34. uqs1000
  35. pintpot
  36. gedasd
  37. xtrosity
  38. xtrosity
  39. Dirty_Pierre
  40. Scooter000
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  43. Yourrid
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  48. Eivwer
  49. archimedes
  50. octav
  51. gorb507
  52. Bar co
  53. Modulor
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  56. fonfan
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  58. san san
  59. Tom E
  60. Tom E
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  62. khas
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  69. Jerommel
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  77. CASHESVALLEY
  78. tru3s1lv3r
  79. glide 1
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  81. akoposilester
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  84. gregor
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  87. mickscott
  88. Guns712
  89. AEDe (NW)
  90. fireblade893 (NW)
  91. ImA4Wheelr
  92. k-wong
  93. Lumens Industry
  94. Lumens Industry
  95. Nicolicous
  96. Tom_182
  97. GTsuperheros
  98. firedome
  99. snl35
  100. Saigon
  101. LightRider
  102. pleply
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  104. yasenf
  105. Hezekiah
  106. bobdotorg
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  108. lionheart_2281
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  118. Tarvos
  119. Tjhosan
  120. Savydude
  121. osb40000
  122. osb40000
  123. Gj
  124. Box

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Interested depending on price.
Is the the WIP that M4MDX showed yesterday?

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This light looks tailor made for folks that complain about not being able to run on high until the batteries are dead.

I’m interested, depending on price and how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.

The low mode should be lower.

Reviews: Efan IMR18350 700mAh 10.5A, <a href="http://

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Looks good. Interested dependant on price. I have no need for it but it looks like a powerhouse.

Also M4DMAX tested an unknown pre-release product.

Just because it looks very similar and its internal circuit showed “Manker” doesn’t mean it’s likely to be related…. or does it Big Smile

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I believe they implied an approximate value between 0.1 to 10lm.

leaftye wrote:
...how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.
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Interested depending on price. Whats your length???????

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~160mm. I will measure it when it arrives tomorrow. Else you could also find out from giorgoskok.

Modulor wrote:
Interested depending on price. Whats your length???????
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leaftye wrote:
This light looks tailor made for folks that complain about not being able to run on high until the batteries are dead.

I’m interested, depending on price and how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.

Because high mode is a measly 1200 lumens I’d say.

Why do all these XHP70 triples have such insane mode spacing?

G’day!

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freeme wrote:

I believe they implied an approximate value between 0.1 to 10lm.


leaftye wrote:
…how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.

Hmmm…. I’m betting it’s programmable like Manker MK34 or MK35 (engineering mode). I mean Utorch is pretty much Manker so…

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lionheart_2281 wrote:
leaftye wrote:
This light looks tailor made for folks that complain about not being able to run on high until the batteries are dead.

I’m interested, depending on price and how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.

Because high mode is a measly 1200 lumens I’d say.

Why do all these XHP70 triples have such insane mode spacing?

So that they can say “my dad is bigger than your dad”….

It’s all a massive numbers game. Big numbers sell. This is 10k lumens, that is crazy. I still reckon it’ll be too hot to hold after 5mins if it stays on full pelt.

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chrisc wrote:
lionheart_2281 wrote:
leaftye wrote:
This light looks tailor made for folks that complain about not being able to run on high until the batteries are dead.

I’m interested, depending on price and how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.

Because high mode is a measly 1200 lumens I’d say.

Why do all these XHP70 triples have such insane mode spacing?

So that they can say “my dad is bigger than your dad”….

It’s all a massive numbers game. Big numbers sell. This is 10k lumens, that is crazy. I still reckon it’ll be too hot to hold after 5mins if it stays on full pelt.

Couldn’t high mode be 2500 lumens or something sustainable for 10 mins or so?
1200 lumens from something capable of 9000 is more like a low to medium mode.

G’day!

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I have already gave them my feedback including UI. Hope it is not too late. embarassed

lionheart_2281 wrote:
leaftye wrote:
This light looks tailor made for folks that complain about not being able to run on high until the batteries are dead. I'm interested, depending on price and how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.
Because high mode is a measly 1200 lumens I'd say. Why do all these XHP70 triples have such insane mode spacing?

 

I couldn't agree more. It would be better if they have included at least one intermediate mode between 2500-3000lm value.  

lionheart_2281 wrote:
Couldn't high mode be 2500 lumens or something sustainable for 10 mins or so? 1200 lumens from something capable of 9000 is more like a low to medium mode.
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I hope they fix the UI, if they don’t I doubt they will sell many of them.

G’day!

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Interested depending on price and if they have better mode spacing like 3000 and 6000 between 1500 and 10,000.

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Interested depending on price. Mode spacing be dammed, I only intend to use it on turbo! Big Smile

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lionheart_2281 wrote:
chrisc wrote:
lionheart_2281 wrote:
leaftye wrote:
This light looks tailor made for folks that complain about not being able to run on high until the batteries are dead.

I’m interested, depending on price and how that 0.1-10 lumen moonlight mode actually works.

Because high mode is a measly 1200 lumens I’d say.

Why do all these XHP70 triples have such insane mode spacing?

So that they can say “my dad is bigger than your dad”….

It’s all a massive numbers game. Big numbers sell. This is 10k lumens, that is crazy. I still reckon it’ll be too hot to hold after 5mins if it stays on full pelt.

Couldn’t high mode be 2500 lumens or something sustainable for 10 mins or so?
1200 lumens from something capable of 9000 is more like a low to medium mode.

Nope, then you’ll get the folks whining about how this is a poorly engineered product because it can’t even stay on high for more than 10 minutes or so. So we get modes called turbo, turbo 1, turbo 2, etc. High can run for 2.5 hours, doesn’t that look great on paper? Ha! I don’t want the highest mode to be able to stay on indefinitely. I want it to push to the point just before damage to the flashlight occurs, and if that causes 3rd degree burns or starts a fusion reaction, that’s okay with me.

I’m going to have to look into that engineering mode. 10 lumen moonlight is ridiculous, but I could see times where I’d swap a true moonlight for a specific low.

The low mode should be lower.

Reviews: Efan IMR18350 700mAh 10.5A, <a href="http://

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/\ Sure but how long will it last on turbo without dropping down in power dramatically.

The body is small. There doesn't appear to be much mass in there for getting rid of the heat from the emitters.

The nearest thing I've got to that is the TN36 and that gets too hot to hand hold after ~15mins

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Interested depending on price and dimensions and available tint.

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My concern with this light is the size of the light and the amount of heat it’s going to put out. I’ve just sat down with my TN36 (fresh cells), a temperature probe and a lux meter.

The light was on for 15mins and went from room temperature (probe reads a little high here) and topped out at 68c.

At this point the light was too hot to hold and the output had dropped a fair bit. I’ve got no way of accurately measuring at the moment but the lux meter shows you an idea of how many “units” it dropped by rather than just seeing it get a bit darker.

So this is a 6000 lumen light that looses power quite dramatically in under 15mins and at the same time gets far too hot to hold.

How this 10k lumen monster will cope is beyond me!

Not only the heat of the emitters but when I took the cells out just now they were all really hot. 15mins use and down to 3.96v too so quite an impact.

I’ll post a 4x sped up youtube video in just a bit so you can see 15mins compressed a fair bit Big Smile

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I’m interested.
Pricing depending.

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Also interested depending on price

I love all kinds of lights... storm lanterns, kosmos & matador lamps, gas lanterns, tallow lanterns, flashlights, lasers, tritium vials...

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Put me on the list.

It’s going to be good competition with the Q8. They each have their pros and cons.

My Convoy L6 thread with Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

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My olight x7 has reasonable spacing 3-5-9000 lumen, why cant other brand make UI like that

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