Q8, PMS SEND TO THOSE WITH ISSUES BLF soda can light

What is the PM?

Personal Message, like email but within the forum. :wink:

The Miller has all of us that have expressed an interest in buying one or more of these lights divided up in groups. He will send a link to make the purchase (as well as the coupon code to lock in the price) to groups of us at a time, in order to make it more efficient to “email” 1300+ people. When the lights are ready, we will be notified, and it will be up to us to only buy the one or two or whatever we spoke up for.

Yeah and when you receive a Personal Message on BLF you get an email telling you so.

Not everyone has that option enabled Miller, so sometimes folks here do not get that email.

So, make sure you have email enabled to notify you of messages. :wink:

Edit: On the left, click My Account, then Edit, then scroll down to the botton to Privacy, check the box for enable notification of messages. :wink:

@The Miller: please add me for a second one - first is #55.
Thanks.

Thanks!

Yes patmurris, will do!

It’s amazing sometimes seeing people’s preferences for tint. There were a couple cheap zoomies laying around which appeared to have a 1-something and 0-something emitter, respectively. My sister liked it and snagged one, and she chose the 0-something tint because it looked brighter.

I can’t even call a 0 tint “white” any more. It’s so blue I’ve been tempted to use one to make an “ice blue” light saber.

Also, given a choice between a Nichia 219b 4500k 92CRI light and a XP-G2 ~5700K light (NW and CW L3 L10), she chose the XP-G2. Same reason.

OTOH, my mother filled her house with 2700K bulbs and doesn’t like 5000K bulbs. Everything there looks yellow to me.

I guess I’m the odd one out because I like daylight tints, 4500-5000K.

Thanks so much for all your doing. I would like another one. I’m at 1306 now.

5000K is best tint for me.
Don’t like yellow, and don’t like blue…

TK, it could be age or what one has for lighting in the home. I can see the difference in °K when a light is first turned on, but then I become immune to it. I make the claim that it makes little difference to me. Of course one that is hugely blue or yellow might bother me. We have a floor lamp next to my chair that has a daylight LED bulb for area lighting, and the reading light is warmer. I can see it when they’re both turned on, then nothing, it’s just light unless I look directly at the bulb.

Yeah, I don’t claim to understand it in depth. I bet your mom is accustomed to low wattage incandescents and doesn’t want to change. Personally, phooey on those days. I if want those days I’ll cut the power and bring out the kerosene lights. Yeah, that’s not happening unless it’s TEOTWAWKI and my PV system has pooped itself.

Older people spent more time with orange tinted incandescent lighting, it’s “normal” for them. They feel like a daylight white is burning too much electricity and turn it off.

I like daylight white myself, as close to pure white as I can get it without any tint one way or another.

Edit: Should also add that once I find it white to my liking, I like to make it bright enough to burn through your eyes and come out the back of your head. :smiley:

I prefer warm white home lighting and I’m not old!

Ativistic memories. It’s said that when we lived in caves and/or camped out, the firelight was our only source of light and we all know what color that is. So our ancestral beginnings conditioned us to have warm white lighting, it is even said that it starts us off towards bedtime, the gradual decline of our lighting condition prepares us to call it quits.

Nowadays it simply isn’t so, but the age old preference for warm white household lighting is still strong in a great many, even those that can’t admit they are aging, gracefully or otherwise. :wink:

> why would you want to replace LEDs every few years?

The rate at which they’re being improved is awesome; the old saying “nothing gets old faster than computers except fresh fruit” could apply to LEDs too.

> warm white … sleep

There is much good and very recent science on that subject:
https://www.google.com/search?q=blue+light+sleep
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=15026390498755012324

You likely learned about “three color receptors” for vision. Turns out there are four receptors.
We have that receptor. Dinoflagellates have the same receptor. It’s rather basic stuff to how life works, evolutionarily very old.
Life adapted to blue daylight skies a long, long time ago.

Looping back to the first question — one thing I often do is replace white LEDs with amber emitters, to use at night.
And those too have been improving rapidly as the market for sleep-protecting illumination begins to develop.

On the opposite side of some of this theory, if I have to work into the night cutting up a felled tree to clear a road or looking for a lost puppy, whatever, I don’t want warm white light making me sleepy! :stuck_out_tongue:

Yep, Dale — light with the peak output right at the blue-green spike that “white” LEDs emit is the key to keeping you wakeful and alert.
I had a 7-year-old neighbor who discovered this himself, long ago. He told me he was sneaking his under-the-blanket late nighttime video gaming/reading using a blue LED penlight because it kept him alert.

Takes a couple of hours for most people after the last exposure to blue-green light before the body starts letting melatonin accumulate and sleepiness begins.
And it takes very little ‘white’ light to reset that 2-hour countdown clock.

I’ve read that the amber night lights are very helpful to parents who want their babies not to stay awake after nighttime feeding, too.

https://www.google.com/search?q=melatonin+wavelength+LED&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjloJXdxYLUAhWpqlQKHS07DzYQ_AUICygC&biw=1312&bih=895#imgrc=HFDA6iIN-tIFZM:

I definitely prefer light on the warmer side of neutral. I like the compact fluorescent bulbs for being energy efficient, but they start at a warm white and go to a harsh white. Glad led bulbs in nice warm tints are available at an affordable price now.

Indeed, there is. Blue light activates the IPRCGs, which tells the brain to make wakey-wakey chemicals. In most people. About 19,997 out of every 20,000 people, really. I’m one of those other 3. And, statistically, the other 2 are blind. So I’m … nocturnal. And morning people are weird.

Anyway, the smoke grenade pouch showed up and fits my SRK well. Shipping was stupid-fast too. I ordered on Saturday and it arrived on Monday. Considering USPS has Sundays off, that’s like one-day shipping.

I suppose it sort of fits my BST too, but it doesn’t slide in far enough to reach the bottom, and the velcro is a bit short for a good grip. It’s still usable, but not ideal… a shallower or wider pouch would work better. What this one really needs is a Q8.

D@&$ right Dale, you won’t hear me admitting it!