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Yes will do.

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hahaha the page break made me miss th double posting, thanks, deleted one.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Hmm… ballpark number… maybe 2017. Maybe 2018. Depends on a lot of factors I’m not informed about. Based on past project timelines, I’d be a little surprised if they’re ready in time for Halloween.

I thought it would be ready within 1-2 months Big Smile
Well, I can allocate my piggy bank account to another flashlight before this flashlight become available.

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FWIW, I’m totally guessing. It’s just that these things, so far, have never been fast.

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In for one,thanks!

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MARK list updated

lumenzilla wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:
Hmm… ballpark number… maybe 2017. Maybe 2018. Depends on a lot of factors I’m not informed about. Based on past project timelines, I’d be a little surprised if they’re ready in time for Halloween.

I thought it would be ready within 1-2 months Big Smile
Well, I can allocate my piggy bank account to another flashlight before this flashlight become available.

ToyKeeper wrote:
FWIW, I’m totally guessing. It’s just that these things, so far, have never been fast.

Yes I think I should add a line to my sig “it is done when it is done” Wink
EDIT, and that is done Big Smile

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ToyKeeper wrote:

FWIW, I’m totally guessing. It’s just that these things, so far, have never been fast.

FWIW?

How about For What 3ats Arth?  8^)

Bad raccoon!

Very bad!  })

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In for one thanks

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Yes will update list later

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Interested in 2 – Thank you

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Was there ever a final decision made on the emitter type? I know there was a survey run on reddit that showed overwhelming support for 219Cs instead of XP-G3s.

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I tend to prefer XPL HI in my triples. They’re much brighter than 219C or XP-G3.

However, I’ve also read recently that XPL2 fit into the Carclo 10507 optic without modification, making them an interesting choice.

Course the downside to these kinds of emitters is they cost more than XP-G3. Maybe just sell an XP-G3 version and if people want different emitters they can swap in their own later.

Please don’t glue the head.

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Hmm this is for Fritz to answer but I haven’t seen stock Nichia mentioned Wink

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It seems unlikely given this test that the XP-L HI would be brighter than the XP-G3 in a direct-drive triple. Yes, that’s not the highest bin of XP-L HI, but the forward voltage plays a big role in how much current gets through it, and I’d be shocked if the Carclo optics have as good efficiency with the flat domes.

That’s pretty academic though; they’re close, and you’d probably need an integrating sphere to see which is closer.

I have a preference too, but I don’t care too much as I’m likely to buy several of these and swap in several different emitters. I have a shoebox and a smartphone, so I’ll make some attempt at determining which is brightest, but I don’t care much about that in practice. I care more about color quality than the peak output it can sustain for 45 seconds before it burns my hand (that peak output is a pretty good party trick though).

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In terms of beam and tint and tint consistency, my best-looking triples are:

  • XP-L HI U5 5000K (~3000 lm)
  • Nichia 219B 92CRI 4750K (800 lm, 1400 lm, 1800 lm)

I also have some XP-G2 at about 2250 lm, and they’re decent, but not as nice as my others. And I haven’t tried it with 219C or XP-G3 yet.

Usually I go for a 10511 optic, sometimes stock and sometimes with the texture polished down to give it a bit more throw. For flooders the 10508 / 10509 can be nice too. But I generally don’t use the 10507 — it adds beam artifacts, catches lint, and isn’t really any throwier than a polished 10511.

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I’m mainly interested in max turbo brightness. XP-G3s are good enough for me.
The extra current running to 219Cs would decrease turbo runtime because of extra heat would it not?

I agree the 10507 can have a strange beam shape, it is pretty tight and even, but I don’t have a use for such a profile because it’s like a medium-sized hot spot with no spill. 10511 is what I use, it has really nice even-colored flood and is great for photographing and lighting when I go explore abandoned buildings. Also good for general-purpose uses around the house.

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It is my understanding XPG3 give a nice max lumens while still having a DTP ledboard compatible with many different LEDs.
And funny thing, reflowing the LEDs on a SRK (from LB blue to XML2 NW) was very easy, in fact I found soldering the led and switch wires to the RMM driver harder

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The Miller wrote:
It is my understanding XPG3 give a nice max lumens while still having a DTP ledboard compatible with many different LEDs. And funny thing, reflowing the LEDs on a SRK (from LB blue to XML2 NW) was very easy, in fact I found soldering the led and switch wires to the RMM driver harder

Flashlights with e-switch are tricky to work with most times …

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giorgoskok wrote:
The Miller wrote:
It is my understanding XPG3 give a nice max lumens while still having a DTP ledboard compatible with many different LEDs. And funny thing, reflowing the LEDs on a SRK (from LB blue to XML2 NW) was very easy, in fact I found soldering the led and switch wires to the RMM driver harder

Flashlights with e-switch are tricky to work with most times …


The switch is in the tailcap. You need a special driver to get the switch-signal directly to the driver without any switch wire.
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Wieselflinkpro wrote:
giorgoskok wrote:
The Miller wrote:
It is my understanding XPG3 give a nice max lumens while still having a DTP ledboard compatible with many different LEDs. And funny thing, reflowing the LEDs on a SRK (from LB blue to XML2 NW) was very easy, in fact I found soldering the led and switch wires to the RMM driver harder

Flashlights with e-switch are tricky to work with most times …


The switch is in the tailcap. You need a special driver to get the switch-signal directly to the driver without any switch wire.

TheMiller is talking for an SRK

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Jtm94 wrote:
I’m mainly interested in max turbo brightness.

I’m not too concerned about the turbo brightness. I find that even XP-G2 is plenty. But then, I also only use a few modes most of the time on EDC-style lights. By percent of time spent in each mode…
  • 80% Low (~8 lm)
  • 5% Moon (~0.2 lm)
  • 5% Med (~50 lm)
  • 5% Biking (~200 lm)
  • 4% Disco
  • 1% Turbo

Aside from blinkies and turbo bursts, I almost never use more than two digits worth of lumens. I could happily get by with a 1×7135 driver most of the time. It sure can be fun to go into OMGWTF mode once in a while though. Smile

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Please put me down for one. I really hope you take it easy with all these special edition lights, I don’t know how much more of these I can afford. (jk, keep it coming!)

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I’ve got a different opinion about all these special edition lights: if you keep offering them at these super value prices, I say bring it on! I can’t afford Zebralights and Noctigon Meteors!

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PBWilson wrote:
I’ve got a different opinion about all these special edition lights: if you keep offering them at these super value prices, I say bring it on! I can’t afford Zebralights and Noctigon Meteors!

Lol I’m in the same boat. I love that the FW3A is cheaper than building your own Convoy triple, and the Q8 is cheaper than building your own SRK clone.

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Please add me to the list for one. If alternate LED’s like Nichia’s, the. sign me up for two… thanks!

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In for one too!!!

-SkyRay King 4x XPL HI, TN40 copy http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55195
-XHP70.2 Maglite 2D http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54791
-SkyRay King 7x XML2, TIR, 8x 18650 http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54886
-Coming next: 4x XHP50.2 air-cooled...

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I’ll take one the Miller, gladly

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This light is so close and yet so far from what I want….
For me a modded S2+ seems like a better option. But I decided to give some feedback on I find right and I find wrong with this light.
I’m looking for the ultimate capabilities/size, with capabilities defined as the whole output vs. runtime curve.
Lux-rc’s Minion R1 is probably the current leader here, though quite heavy and can’t be used one-handed. And is very expensive.
This light would be second, yet some design decisions make it significantly larger than it could be. And too large for me.

  1. I don’t understand why the tail and the head need to have so large diameter. 24 mm lights are plentiful. Some accessories (like headbands) assume 24 mm, so here you lose compatibility.
  2. I have a feeling that a switch in the head would add less volume. I guess it would be cheaper too.
  3. With a switch in the head, you could make the threads compatible with Jaxman / S2 and enable users to use cheap short battery tubes. I would surely go with that.
  4. I wonder if with a switch in the head it could have a 21700 battery inside 24 mm tube. I see there are no high-capacity batteries in this size yet, but if they appear, such light would be quite interesting. Guess that’s not compatible with #3
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You could design and build your own.

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Please add me to the list for one, thank you.

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