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Rusty Joe wrote:
We need to get rid of the “Rude!” score nonsense. Makes us sound like mental handicapped where we can’t deal with normal social interactions. Really, it needs to go. A post can always just be reported if it can be classed as inappropriate. But this needs to stop. And I’ve felt this way for a long time.

I’m with you. Someone gave me a rude point for trashing a defective flashlight I purchased a while back. How is that rude?

BTW, I didn’t use any foul language in my post.

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Well, the Rude! score is supposed to be a tool in our arsenal as self-moderated members. The rating system is very forgiving. It’s just supposed to give a little bit of visual feedback so that you can know how people react to your posts. I think SB said that there’s no auto-ban or anything like that associated with it, but if you do get a high number, it will let him know so that he can check it out.

AFAIK, you can’t see anyone else’s Rude! number or which posts of theirs were flagged, only your own. The 10 on the scale is arbitrary and doesn’t mean anything really. I think he said that he had to choose a number in order for the scale thing to work, and it seemed to him that 10 was a good number.

Around the time the Rude! meter was introduced, we needed it. Maybe now we don’t, but we might again in the future. We do get the occasional rude person around here, although a truly unapologetically rude person is quite rare in general at BLF. I mostly ignore it, but I have given Rude! points a few times and as well have also received them. I count it as a mostly harmless feature that can be useful at times.

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DavidEF wrote:
Well, the Rude! score is supposed to be a tool in our arsenal as self-moderated members. The rating system is very forgiving. It’s just supposed to give a little bit of visual feedback so that you can know how people react to your posts. I think SB said that there’s no auto-ban or anything like that associated with it, but if you do get a high number, it will let him know so that he can check it out.

AFAIK, you can’t see anyone else’s Rude! number or which posts of theirs were flagged, only your own. The 10 on the scale is arbitrary and doesn’t mean anything really. I think he said that he had to choose a number in order for the scale thing to work, and it seemed to him that 10 was a good number.

Around the time the Rude! meter was introduced, we needed it. Maybe now we don’t, but we might again in the future. We do get the occasional rude person around here, although a truly unapologetically rude person is quite rare in general at BLF. I mostly ignore it, but I have given Rude! points a few times and as well have also received them. I count it as a mostly harmless feature that can be useful at times.

Nicely spoken. Minus 1 for you:)

I think we should also have an informative button with an area to skim through the top most informative posts to gain knowledge that might otherwise be hidden:)

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DavidEF wrote:

Around the time the Rude! meter was introduced, we needed it. Maybe now we don’t, but we might again in the future. We do get the occasional rude person around here, although a truly unapologetically rude person is quite rare in general at BLF. I mostly ignore it, but I have given Rude! points a few times and as well have also received them. I count it as a mostly harmless feature that can be useful at times.

Yes on this. Well put.
Its a bit like the option to not peruse commercial posts. Not long ago it was real handy but now the commercial sellers seem to have gotten the hint which means the option is rarely used now.

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I think it just means he was bad at being rude. Silly Rude fail. Facepalm

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SB once explained how the rude only sticks to you for 24hr then resets, I had a person follow me around and push my buttons continuously that was until SB tracked him down, haven’t had a problem since, haven’t seen that guy either since, maybe an ejection button somewhere.
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T18 wrote:

SB once explained how the rude only sticks to you for 24hr then resets, I had a person follow me around and push my buttons continuously that was until SB tracked him down, haven’t had a problem since, haven’t seen that guy either since, maybe an ejection button somewhere.

Almost all of my problem posts are the result of a single user.

That person was banned last year, and I haven't had hardly any posts marked as rude since.  ;)

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Trust me when I say sb dishes out a heck of a spanking. Dont ask how I know. Silly

My current and or voltage measurements are only relevent to anything that I measure.

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I just noticed a negative rudeness score too.

The rude-point system was added almost exactly a year before this thread was created. If people keep getting negative scores in ways which match the timing and quantity of points received a year ago (but reversed), it’s probably some sort of cleanup process. Maybe old points are getting garbage-collected and their effect is being subtracted again by the cleanup script?

Total shot in the dark theory.

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I just noticed a negative rudeness score too.

The rude-point system was added almost exactly a year before this thread was created. If people keep getting negative scores in ways which match the timing and quantity of points received a year ago (but reversed), it’s probably some sort of cleanup process. Maybe old points are getting garbage-collected and their effect is being subtracted again by the cleanup script?

Total shot in the dark theory.


Pshht! You expect me to believe THAT!? Yeah right! The moon goddess shooting in the dark. Hmmph! Shocked

But yeah, you’re probably right about the cleanup. I can imagine that exact thing happening if the method of erasure after 24 hours didn’t actually erase the points, but rather cancelled them out. The actual erasure from cleanup would then be subtracting from the still standing “cancel out” resulting in negative points.

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Glenn i think god has singled you out for a swift lift off . it just means he has forgiven you and all your impure thoughts …before leaving i suggest you update your drivers because god hates bad PWM .

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maybe it counts negative after the wrap at 9999?

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Well, I got my first rude mark… Pretty sure for saying the “S” word…

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Pulsar wrote:
Well, I got my first rude mark… Pretty sure for saying the “S” word…

As a reminder, you can see which posts were marked as rude here:
http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts

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I knew what one it was. I remembered it this morning and went and deleted it, and noticed after the fact I had one rude mark. Was having a down night with a lot on my mind

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Pulsar wrote:
Well, I got my first rude mark… Pretty sure for saying the “S” word…
Some people are overly sensitive to harmless words used every day by millions of people. It’s a pitiful excuse to “rude” someone.
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Pulsar wrote:
Well, I got my first rude mark… Pretty sure for saying the “S” word…
Some people are overly sensitive to harmless words used every day by millions of people. It’s a pitiful excuse to “rude” someone.

Oh well, in my case it will help to realize this is an international forum and perhaps another “millions of people” belonging to a different culture find such “harmless” words to the contrary. Folks, nothing much to worry about, however.

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atbglenn wrote:

Some people are overly sensitive to harmless words used every day by millions of people. It’s a pitiful excuse to “rude” someone.

BLF is supposed to be a family-friendly environment.

The use of the "s" word is one reason why rude button exists.

Remember BLF Rule #2:

Please don't use dirty language, please don't swear, and please avoid lewd or risqué conversations.

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raccoon city wrote:

atbglenn wrote:

Some people are overly sensitive to harmless words used every day by millions of people. It’s a pitiful excuse to “rude” someone.


BLF is supposed to be a family-friendly environment.


The use of the “s” word is one reason why rude button exists.


Remember BLF Rule #2:


Please don’t use dirty language, please don’t swear, and please avoid lewd or risqué conversations.


Like I said, was having a bad night, lot on my mind… woke up and figured I didnt want to bring anyone else down today, so deleted it. I didnt find the post rude, it was honest. If someone wants to click a button to show they are offended, is what it is.
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I hope today is going better for you, Pulsar!

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I just found my one rude strike! All I did was comment on a silly ad by X-tar about a 12 bay charger that wasn’t. Of course it was right after Mrs. Lumens posted about OL’s passing. So sorry about who was offended, guess I was being insensitive! (I have so much more I’d like to say right now,but wouldn’t want anyone to need there safe space) Angry

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Pulsar wrote:
Well, I got my first rude mark… Pretty sure for saying the “S” word…

Sometimes I have difficulty with the no-swearing rule too, but I totally understand why it exists. There are a wide range of cultures interacting here, people in a huge variety of environments and situations, and making that work requires a bit of extra caution for everyone involved. It’s not about safe spaces or people being over-sensitive or any of that political noise; it’s just part of the oil needed to keep the engine running with so many different parts in contact with each other.

So far I’ve only gotten one rude point, not counting the ones I requested for testing purposes… and it was because I was actually being kind of a jerk. It was a good reminder to be nice to people, and to remember that the audience is a lot bigger than just the handful of people actively participating in each thread.

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If I’m in a really foul mood I sometimes just type everything I feel as it comes just to get it out but almost always either edit or delete it entirely. What rude pts I have received have come from not checking my emotional content before “saving”. I delete a lot of stuff not because of this but because I can’t find the right words and would rather say nothing than say the wrong thing. Not always, I have two feet and reserve the right to knaw on one at times. Facepalm

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Sometimes I have difficulty with the no-swearing rule too, but I totally understand why it exists. [ . . . ] It’s not about safe spaces or people being over-sensitive or any of that political noise; it’s just part of the oil needed to keep the engine running with so many different parts in contact with each other.

Back when I made an account, after lurking for a number of months, I noticed the rude button and first thought it was silly. I thought about it for a bit, and you’re absolutely right. BLF’s atmosphere is one of the main reasons I decided to join the community. Well said TK.

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I just saw this thread… But I have been running in the negative numbers lately alsi. Big Smile Sb said it was some kind of glitch. Wink

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