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[JasonWW]

@Joey Adams

The assumption I was making is that manker or subsidiary of manker owns utorch and that is why each of their lights are so similar. I guess thats not the case. I couldn’t see why manker would benefit from that arrangement.

Utorch is a seperate company. Manker is very upset with them. They are quite “disgusted” by their practices. It’s just the China way, though. Manker has even “borrowed” idea and designs from other companies. Still, Utorch seems to be making very direct copies. Even releasing them at the same time or before Manker!

[Andybibbville]

Interested in a PM please.

[Wrathbringer27]

Why didnt they push it to 12000 lm?

[Tjhosan]

Interested! Pm price if available

[rizky_p]

Interested for One depending on the price.

[Charga]

@Wrathbringer27

Why didnt they push it to 12000 lm?

Yes, make it a real HOT Rod!! :+1: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

[LightRider]

@JasonWW

@Joey Adams

The assumption I was making is that manker or subsidiary of manker owns utorch and that is why each of their lights are so similar. I guess thats not the case. I couldn’t see why manker would benefit from that arrangement.

Utorch is a seperate company. Manker is very upset with them. They are quite “disgusted” by their practices. It’s just the China way, though. Manker has even “borrowed” idea and designs from other companies. Still, Utorch seems to be making very direct copies. Even releasing them at the same time or before Manker!

What is your source for this information? I know there is a post or two from member Manker that indicate “discuss” but I don’t buy it. There’s no way for a copier to reverse engineer a light and release it before the origional. Especially not over and over again.

It is my opinion that Manker/utorch is a marketing game that allows Manker to manipulate its market. It seems clear to me, but I do not have a source or any proof and so it can be considered speculation.

[Mstevens113]

Or Manker has a leak somewhere and designs are picked up and rushed onto the market before the source is released.

[hIKARInoob]

^ Manker told me via pm that they are ODM for GearBest, and there will be no Manker variant of the UT03. The question then is why Manker wrote “disgusting” twice regarding the UT01 and UT02. My only explanation is that they have great sense of humor…

[JasonWW]

From what I gather, the company that makes the Manker lights (has the blueprints, machines the housings, etc…) seems to be venturing off making their own version. They make slight alterations, but it’s mostly based on Mankers design.

[JasonWW]

@hIKARInoob

^ Manker told me via pm that they are ODM for GearBest, and there will be no Manker variant of the UT03. The question then is why Manker wrote “disgusting” twice regarding the UT01 and UT02. My only explanation is that they have great sense of humor…

If the UT03 were to come out before the Manker version, very few people would buy the Manker. It would be a big blow to their sales. So it might make sense to them to just cut their losses and not produce it.

[freeme (youtube.com/@1thedeals)]

Both companies are in good relationship now. Let's move on and focus on making more kick-ass flashlights!

[Gerrit]

interested

[gokalpm]

Hi, I am interested depending on the price. Thanks.

[L4M4]

Is there any chance to get XHP70.2 in them?
I even would pay a tenner more for that

[freeme (youtube.com/@1thedeals)]

XHP70.2 sounds cool but i heard dark cross might still be visible with SMO reflector.

@L4M4

Is there any chance to get XHP70.2 in them? I even would pay a tenner more for that

[L4M4]

But way less than with the non.2 Version.
Also, it’s a tiny bit brighter

[Savydude]

Yip me too

[osb40000]

Interested depending upon price.

[lionheart_2281]

@freeme

XHP70.2 sounds cool but i heard dark cross might still be visible with SMO reflector.

@L4M4

Is there any chance to get XHP70.2 in them? I even would pay a tenner more for that

Why a SMO reflector with XHP70’s and a flooder?

XHP70.2’s with a light/medium OP reflector would make more sense, wouldn’t it?