From what I gather, the company that makes the Manker lights (has the blueprints, machines the housings, etcā¦) seems to be venturing off making their own version. They make slight alterations, but itās mostly based on Mankers design.
If the UT03 were to come out before the Manker version, very few people would buy the Manker. It would be a big blow to their sales. So it might make sense to them to just cut their losses and not produce it.
Both companies are in good relationship now. Let's move on and focus on making more kick-ass flashlights!
interested
Hi, I am interested depending on the price. Thanks.
Is there any chance to get XHP70.2 in them?
I even would pay a tenner more for that 
XHP70.2 sounds cool but i heard dark cross might still be visible with SMO reflector.
But way less than with the non.2 Version.
Also, itās a tiny bit brighter
Yip me too
Interested depending upon price.
Why a SMO reflector with XHP70ās and a flooder?
XHP70.2ās with a light/medium OP reflector would make more sense, wouldnāt it?
Yes, OP reflector makes more sense. Thatās why this light is changing to OP.
As for 70.2, they are still new. Who knows, maybe Utorch has a huge stock of the xhp70 and want to use them up.
They better donāt do that on a GroupBuy from one of the biggest Flashlight-Forums
Somewhere here I read that a donut is visible at the current state. Thatās a no-go for me.
OP reflector would def help mitigate the donut hole
What are you referring to that they donāt do?
Current beamshots with the current SMO reflector do show donut holes which is why they are changing it to an OP reflector.
Keep in mind that they probably havenāt fine-tuned the height of the reflector to give the best beam pattern.
Iām interested in this light depending on the price.
Has the price been determined? There are a lot of posts to Wade through.
Yes, Iām sure Freeme will PM you the price and details.
Please add me to the interest list.
Iām referring to what you said - using the first XHP70 just because they have plenty of them in stock.
I have the JKK36 from KD - OP reflector and XHP70 - and a big donut hole.
So an OP reflector isnāt all whatās needed.
Thereās a number of reasons that they may stick with the xhp70. The 70.2 may not work well with their current drivers and they may not want to redesign them. Itās also possible they are not able to purchase a huge quantity of the new 70.2 because they are scarce at the moment. Flashlight companies can be pretty weird and hard to understand their reasoning for doing something.
The reflector height is also very important. I can shim my convoy l6 to make a donut hole with a SMO reflector and xhp50.2. I can make it go away just by changing the reflector height. So my point is that the UT03 with itās SMO reflector might work well with the xhp70 if they just change the reflector height. Itās possible they could just change the reflector shape to also get rid of the donut hole pattern. We will just have to wait and see how the next prototype version performs.