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XHP70.2 sounds cool but i heard dark cross might still be visible with SMO reflector.

But way less than with the non.2 Version.
Also, it’s a tiny bit brighter

Yip me too

Interested depending upon price.

Why a SMO reflector with XHP70’s and a flooder?

XHP70.2’s with a light/medium OP reflector would make more sense, wouldn’t it?

Yes, OP reflector makes more sense. That’s why this light is changing to OP.
As for 70.2, they are still new. Who knows, maybe Utorch has a huge stock of the xhp70 and want to use them up.

They better don’t do that on a GroupBuy from one of the biggest Flashlight-Forums :stuck_out_tongue:


Somewhere here I read that a donut is visible at the current state. That’s a no-go for me.

OP reflector would def help mitigate the donut hole

What are you referring to that they don’t do?

Current beamshots with the current SMO reflector do show donut holes which is why they are changing it to an OP reflector.

Keep in mind that they probably haven’t fine-tuned the height of the reflector to give the best beam pattern.

I’m interested in this light depending on the price.

Has the price been determined? There are a lot of posts to Wade through.

Yes, I’m sure Freeme will PM you the price and details.

Please add me to the interest list.

I’m referring to what you said - using the first XHP70 just because they have plenty of them in stock.

I have the JKK36 from KD - OP reflector and XHP70 - and a big donut hole.
So an OP reflector isn’t all what’s needed.

There’s a number of reasons that they may stick with the xhp70. The 70.2 may not work well with their current drivers and they may not want to redesign them. It’s also possible they are not able to purchase a huge quantity of the new 70.2 because they are scarce at the moment. Flashlight companies can be pretty weird and hard to understand their reasoning for doing something.

The reflector height is also very important. I can shim my convoy l6 to make a donut hole with a SMO reflector and xhp50.2. I can make it go away just by changing the reflector height. So my point is that the UT03 with it’s SMO reflector might work well with the xhp70 if they just change the reflector height. It’s possible they could just change the reflector shape to also get rid of the donut hole pattern. We will just have to wait and see how the next prototype version performs.

Sorry to say this but please remove me from the list, freeme. I get the feeling it will be quite some time to fill the quota. I didn’t sign up for the Q8 and BLF-GT for similar reasons - too long between committing to buy and remembering that I had.

Way I view it is I am not committing. I am signing up for an option to buy with discount when available. Nothing to be lost in having options open.

I’d rather give freeme the heads up so he has more reliable numbers. If he gets the quota filled and then half back out….

Sent.



@JasonWW Thanks for your help.

There is correlation between the amount of interest (based on our list) and development process pace.

@pinkpanda3310 Removed.

Can’t find myself on the list no more. I was number 99

It’s just an “INTEREST LIST” - not more.
Nobody can force you to buy one once the GB is live