Convoy S2+ Desert Tan Available Now!

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New batch? Is the first batch already sold out? I’ve been watching the Aliex store and it still hasn’t shown up there. I know its on banggood but I prefer to buy direct from Simon, no reason to cut banggood in on it.

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apparently BG and FT bought up the first batch so none are left for the aliex store

Idiot proofing something only creates improved idiots.

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Now I’m itching for the upgraded one. Anodized switch and upgraded firmware,,,yes indeed!

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dekozn wrote:
apparently BG and FT bought up the first batch so none are left for the aliex store

Thank you for this, I somehow missed that in JDub’s comment about a page ago. Reading comp fail. We’ve waited a long time for this light to be done, a few more weeks won’t hurt Smile

I do admit a bit of concern over the improved aluminum switch though. I’m sure it’ll be fine for normal usage, but I tend to take my things apart and getting an anodized aluminum switch unscrewed from the housing without scratching it up sounds hard. I have no idea how much cost it would add, but I’d love to see him try for something like altin-coated steel. Honestly, even if they never made it into a complete light, if Simon had a batch of those made to sell separately I’d be on board for several.

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Saw on BG @ $1.37 each

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emarkd wrote:
dekozn wrote:
apparently BG and FT bought up the first batch so none are left for the aliex store

Thank you for this, I somehow missed that in JDub’s comment about a page ago. Reading comp fail. We’ve waited a long time for this light to be done, a few more weeks won’t hurt Smile

I do admit a bit of concern over the improved aluminum switch though. I’m sure it’ll be fine for normal usage, but I tend to take my things apart and getting an anodized aluminum switch unscrewed from the housing without scratching it up sounds hard. I have no idea how much cost it would add, but I’d love to see him try for something like altin-coated steel. Honestly, even if they never made it into a complete light, if Simon had a batch of those made to sell separately I’d be on board for several.


As mentioned, the stainless switches are now available for individual sale. The black coated steel switches are just not rugged enough long-term which is why he’s going to anodized. Simon is limited to what coatings and processes he can have done in his area and keep cost reasonable. I hear you but you have to realize that 95% of the people who buy this light will never attempt to disassemble the switch.

That reminds me…Simon sent me a picture of the tool they use to install and remove the switches. Unfortunately this is not a commercially available tool The factory that makes his hosts made this tool. I’m showing it just to give people an idea how they’re installed. This is not a switch design that is easy to remove and swap as emarkd could surely tell you.

These custom pliers grip the metal outer switch housing with even pressure so that it can be threaded or unthreaded without scratching everything up.


I’m thinking I may try thin needle-nose pliers with a rubber jar-grip between the switch and pliers to assist in grip and avoid scarring. Maybe there are better methods?

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I figured something like that had to be used after trying to remove one of them.

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J-Dub74, to sum a little bit so that I (we?) can keep this “on track”, can you confirm that, so far, the “Convoy S2+ Desert tan” version will have:
- DTP copper MCPCB is standard
- AR coated glass is standard
- XPL-HI in a smooth reflector (SMO) as standard (will OP reflectors and XM-L2 be available by request?)
- Biscotti driver as +standard +(will the 3/5 mode be available by request?)
- Black anodized aluminum switch as standard (no rubber switch, right?)
- Black pocket clip as standard accessory (new version?)
- Lighted tailcap ?? (I got lost about this one…)
- 18350 battery tube as optional

Sorry, but as a newbie I need to keep some things on track among all the more specific and technic/technological aspects! Facepalm
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MascaratumB, I will attempt to answer all you questions…

- DTP copper MCPCB is standard Yes
- AR coated glass is standard Yes
- XPL-HI in a smooth reflector (SMO) as standard (will OP reflectors and XM-L2 be available by request?) Yes and Yes
- Biscotti driver as +standard +(will the 3/5 mode be available by request?) Yes, Yes
- Black anodized aluminum switch as standard (no rubber switch, right?) Yes
- Black pocket clip as standard accessory (new version?) Yes the black clip is included but there is no new version clip yet
- Lighted tailcap ?? (I got lost about this one…) No lighted tailcap
- 18350 battery tube as optional Yes, but seperately

It’s hard for me to keep track of all this too but I do my best. Beer

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Is there will be short tube for the Clear also?

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J-Dub74 wrote:

… you have to realize that 95% of the people who buy this light will never attempt to disassemble the switch.

That reminds me…Simon sent me a picture of the tool they use to install and remove the switches. Unfortunately this is not a commercially available tool The factory that makes his hosts made this tool. I’m showing it just to give people an idea how they’re installed. This is not a switch design that is easy to remove and swap as emarkd could surely tell you.

These custom pliers grip the metal outer switch housing with even pressure so that it can be threaded or unthreaded without scratching everything up.


I’m thinking I may try thin needle-nose pliers with a rubber jar-grip between the switch and pliers to assist in grip and avoid scarring. Maybe there are better methods?

Yeah I get that JDub, I’m not the normal customer. Most of us around here aren’t Smile And I’m good with that. I was just saying that if something more robust happened in the future I’d be all over it.

Those pliers are awesome. I’ve definitely never seen anything like that. My method is basically what you said, but I actually keep a pair of pliers with rubber heatshrink tubing shrunk down over the jaws for that sort of work. Its generally very easy on things and I rarely scratch something, but it happens…

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Why isn’t the link in OP ? I can’t find link.

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J-Dub74 wrote:
MascaratumB, I will attempt to answer all you questions…

- DTP copper MCPCB is standard Yes
- AR coated glass is standard Yes
- XPL-HI in a smooth reflector (SMO) as standard (will OP reflectors and XM-L2 be available by request?) Yes and Yes
- Biscotti driver as +standard +(will the 3/5 mode be available by request?) Yes, Yes
- Black anodized aluminum switch as standard (no rubber switch, right?) Yes
- Black pocket clip as standard accessory (new version?) Yes the black clip is included but there is no new version clip yet
- Lighted tailcap ?? (I got lost about this one…) No lighted tailcap
- 18350 battery tube as optional Yes, but seperately

It’s hard for me to keep track of all this too but I do my best. Beer

Thank you so much! You answered all my questions J-Dub! I know it must be hard to keep all on track but you are doing a great job on that and on letting us know how things advance! Thumbs Up Smile
I will order it from AliExpress store when the second batch arrives, but for any modification I’ll be wathcing this thread!

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Why isn’t the link in OP ? I can’t find link.

Because it’s not yet for sale on the aliexpres convoy shop only on BG and FT.

Idiot proofing something only creates improved idiots.

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J-Dub74 wrote:

These custom pliers grip the metal outer switch housing with even pressure so that it can be threaded or unthreaded without scratching everything up.


I’m thinking I may try thin needle-nose pliers with a rubber jar-grip between the switch and pliers to assist in grip and avoid scarring. Maybe there are better methods?


That pair of pliers looks like it still might be dizzy from the time it spent in the lathe! Looks like a pair of needle (long) nose pliers that had the padding stripped of the handles, then mounted in a four jaw chuck to spin them down to the right size.

Not a difficult task for our talented machinists. The limiting factor is the size of the through hole of the chuck.

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J-Dub74 wrote:
MascaratumB, I will attempt to answer all you questions…

- DTP copper MCPCB is standard Yes
- AR coated glass is standard Yes
- XPL-HI in a smooth reflector (SMO) as standard (will OP reflectors and XM-L2 be available by request?) Yes and Yes
- Biscotti driver as +standard +(will the 3/5 mode be available by request?) Yes, Yes
- Black anodized aluminum switch as standard (no rubber switch, right?) Yes
- Black pocket clip as standard accessory (new version?) Yes the black clip is included but there is no new version clip yet
- Lighted tailcap ?? (I got lost about this one…) No lighted tailcap
- 18350 battery tube as optional Yes, but seperately

It’s hard for me to keep track of all this too but I do my best. Beer

Can you make a special order for S2 tan WITH a lighted tailcap? Thanks for answers

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I have tried it a few times but a lighted tail on a S2+ with metal switch cover is not very impressive, for me it is not worth the parasitic drain that comes with it when the light is off.

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I have tried it a few times but a lighted tail on a S2+ with metal switch cover is not very impressive, for me it is not worth the parasitic drain that comes with it when the light is off.

I totally agree with you, there’s no way to make a bright illuminated stainless switch on the S2+…
The space is simply too thin, what makes the rubber boot bright is their larger surface for light diffusion

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Yeah. I tried it. By the time I got it bright enough (to compare with dim trits) the resistance was below 1K (on an H17F driver). It messed up the switch timing at that point.

The parasitic drain would be very high too. Neat but not that great.

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In the thread I can’t remember, few days ago someone posted picture of slightly sanded metal switch letting through much more light. I’ll try finding it.

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djozz wrote:
I have tried it a few times but a lighted tail on a S2+ with metal switch cover is not very impressive, for me it is not worth the parasitic drain that comes with it when the light is off.

How much power does it drains when off? Is it really a significant drain?

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djozz wrote:
I have tried it a few times but a lighted tail on a S2+ with metal switch cover is not very impressive, for me it is not worth the parasitic drain that comes with it when the light is off.

How much power does it drains when off? Is it really a significant drain?


To get something that can actually be seen it is easy 2mA, draining a 18650 in 2 months, smaller batteries much sooner.
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I’ve got a tracking number. Is it time?

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Great color !!!!

Eagerly waiting to be able to order (from banggood) !!!

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Love the smooth reflector and AR glass!

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Nice! Mine is on the way from Fastech. Also have the Clear one coming, I’m planning on gutting them and using them as hosts for a triple and maybe another with an emitter I don’t currently have in the fleet.

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Could Simon or someone else specify the CRI fo the bins ?
According to the lastet CREE tables there seem to be several CRI options for the bins used:

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Emitter BIN: V2-1A 1000LM / U6-3A 940LM / U6-4C 940LM / U4-7A 840LM

Light temperature: 6500-7000K,5000-5200K,4300-4500K,3000-3200K

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J-Dub74 wrote:
mapache wrote:
Dang, late to the party again!

That looks even better in the latest pics. A small part of my brain wishes it had the rubber switch for increased waterproofness, but the aesthetics of that black metal switch, the aesthetics! What more can I say !http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/tusken3.gif!


Yeah, I didnt realize my racoon buddy was in hibernation. Silly
As you said, the black metal switch is about aesthetics. It’s a delicious break from potatoes as they say.

A have little update for everyone…
There is going to be a bit of a delay in the desert tan S2+ hitting the Convoy store. We’re probably looking at roughly 2 weeks. BG and FT snatched up every one in the first batch.

I grumbled at this news but there is also good news for those who wait. This next batch has an improved switch finish. Instead of black steel it’s going to be black anodized aluminum so the finish is much stronger. The black steel is not as tough as we wanted so a change was needed. Simon is also going to use the revised Biscotti driver as the default option. Bye-bye 3/5.

I’m hoping that Simon will have the Biscotti-revised lights in soon. Sounds and looks like a winner to me. Any update?

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PBWilson wrote:
J-Dub74 wrote:
mapache wrote:
Dang, late to the party again!

That looks even better in the latest pics. A small part of my brain wishes it had the rubber switch for increased waterproofness, but the aesthetics of that black metal switch, the aesthetics! What more can I say !http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/tusken3.gif!


Yeah, I didnt realize my racoon buddy was in hibernation. Silly
As you said, the black metal switch is about aesthetics. It’s a delicious break from potatoes as they say.

A have little update for everyone…
There is going to be a bit of a delay in the desert tan S2+ hitting the Convoy store. We’re probably looking at roughly 2 weeks. BG and FT snatched up every one in the first batch.

I grumbled at this news but there is also good news for those who wait. This next batch has an improved switch finish. Instead of black steel it’s going to be black anodized aluminum so the finish is much stronger. The black steel is not as tough as we wanted so a change was needed. Simon is also going to use the revised Biscotti driver as the default option. Bye-bye 3/5.

I’m hoping that Simon will have the Biscotti-revised lights in soon. Sounds and looks like a winner to me. Any update?


I’ve only had one of the revised Biscotti lights so far and it wasn’t mine to keep unfortunately. It was a BD06 with Biscottti and AR coated glass and it fits perfectly in the new C8 sized Convoy holsters! Really a beautiful thing and Biscotti ran perfectly without a single glitch. With the corrected timing it is much easier to program. The new strobe in the latest revision of Biscotti is just SICK! It makes your brain scream for mercy! Grad It’s the only strobe I’ve ever witnessed that might actually truly have tactical use. It has some weird alternating speed that really messes with your head like a jackhammer to the brain. Just awesome. My wife HATED it! Big Smile That little demo was pointed at the ceiling and she was immediately yelling at me to “Turn it off!” as she shielded her eyes and looked away. Now THAT is the kind of reaction I want from a strobe. Thumbs Up I liked it so much that I actually left the strobe accessible for a while. That would normally be the first thing I get rid of but this is something new. Guess I went off on a tangent there…oops.

Anyway, Simon tells me all of the BD series lights are now running Biscotti drivers. If you’re ordering one I’d probably add a note saying you want be sure you get the new rev.2 Biscotti driver. I imagine there are still some around with the previous Biscotti driver and I don’t expect he’d just can them all. Now that I’m thinking about it again I need a BD06 of my own. I got that last one as a gift. I had to test it first of course and then I had a really hard time parting with it.

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