The Meteor is called Noctigon MEteor, and is sold as a semi-high end flashlight with a rather high price-pointā¦
The D4 is sold under Emisar brand, at 35$ for a quadā¦ you canāt expect the same level of technology/efficiency/Russian eforums exigenceā¦
Please, Russian fellows, give us the secret to make 35$ flashlights with magical boost driver fully relgulated at all levels 
I donāt want cheap flashlight. I want to spent my money for good thing that I can use every day.
The good thing is that no one forces you to buy it ā¦.I do not understand your disgust, if something I do not like I do not buy it and I do not walk all day complaining ā¦.
I like this price at what it offers, so I will buy one. The good thing is that no one forces anyone to buy anything.
(of course, I will buy it only if Hank decide sell in his storeā¦.)
So we waited the same hi level with out analogs on market. But we received another astrolux.
Itās as if the ferrarri will release ford fiesta.
This is disappointment and nothing more/
If this one is not good enough, buy a zebralight instead. Problem solved.
And be happy with its greenish tint 
Itās fun to see how people who pay the price of a mid-range flashlight want to have a zebralight in their hands ā¦.
M43 also had a price of a mid-range flashlight when it was relised. I dont want another zebralight.
I was waiting for good 4led light with good modern driver for adequate price.
I really understand youā¦but the āadequateā price for this, is obviously higher than 35 USDā¦(is only my opinion, of course)
When the M43 was released there was no cheap variant of such a light. Today we do have cheap/affordable single 18650 triple and quad lights. It might be tricky if the D4 were priced significantly higher than $35, as people might (= will) find it overpriced. Itās a choice Iām sure, but I also understand the disappointment.
I agree to add 15-20 bucks and even 25 bucks for good driver .
For those who do not want to pay much astrolux and manker exist with similar lights.
and all these have low quality , pwm or dd driver bad ui and so on. And now there is one more such light. So I am not happy )
I think that the last Manker are not comparable with the last Astroluxā¦. (better of course the Manker)
Manker u11 coupon price was $30. Quality host with build-in charger, buck driver, side switch, compact size. Same quality light without manker brand could probably cost much less (utorch?). Make changes to fit quad optics (similar to my quad kit, even less machining in comparing with place for reflector). Optics is not more expensive than reflector. PCB footprint doesnt influence on board self-cost (neverless board is single or quad led). Only thing that can increase price - three extra leds (not big difference between 4xXP-G3 vs 1xXP-L).
Yep
IMHO.
Here the question is not in price. Many were waiting for the same functionality as in the Meteor. And not at all for $ 35. Let it be more expensive. Let it be $50-70. The cost of parts for Indigo is about 15-20 dollars. But not everyone can make a circuit board himself 
The code for indigo 5.0 is also open. But itās in assembler
Indigo_5.0_final.txt
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=87964&d=1382298519
If someone irritates links to a foreign forum, Iām sorry. Itās just a way to show the best that is for today
No one has ever objected to any link to any forum on BLF 
[quote=ToyKeeper]
I just wanted to say that M43 driver could have full smooth dimming but itās more technical issue. Thatās the first time that I see this graphs, who is the source? I might have missed something because Iāve never used M43 only his free beta version āIndigoā theyāre close but not the same regarding to interface and in reality it has completely smooth ramping, as i can see it. So I would prefer not to compare flashlights but more talking about driver features.
Open source? Itās fully open as mentioned above. May be the time for dedicated āIndigoā topic on BLF has come. Spread the light!
[quote=kiriba-ru]
This is the key point.
I would pay even more if it worth it. Anyway I can do it by myself, no sense to argue. We are just discussing why we have that we haveā¦
Yes, 2 years we waited Noctigon Meteor M13/M14 and got Noctigon Astrolux. Disappointment.
Disappointment is one thing.
Being rude is anotherā¦
Calling the D4 a āpiece of shitā even before the first user review will not make Hank modify his product
I wish all the Russian crowd that show itself here to bash a new product was that effective to help BLF in making new productsā¦ but it seems easier to bash the Q8 for some peopleā¦
If you mean collaboration, as experience shows, itās more phenomenon than real business. Talking is of little use. But that would be great.
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