Imalent DX80 32000 lumen monster

nice but what are the actual runtimes on higher lumens?
Is t 30K lumens for 10 seconds then stepdown to 2K?
Now that hyper lumen lights come to market I feel it is more how long higher luns modes can actualy run are more important then a short hyper burst

from the commercial video we can see the imalent DX80 has CPU style heatsink fins inside the head, not sure if the cooling is active like Olight X9 or not.

i think we should be making our own stupid bright light, BLF style! :cowboy_hat_face:

Well the thing is a nice 1.2 kg. My wild guess would be between 30 and 60 seconds before step down.

THIS, if this steps down to 2000 lumens after 20seconds I would see it as a 2K lumens light, funny, K lumens is what the Q8 can sustain till cells are depleted, so for this I would expect more.

And enclosed heatsink won’t help that much without a fan, air must be able to freely move especially in passive solutions, so it looks cool and all, but without a fan and good vent holes I dont think it will help much (lol and adding a fan makes it much much harder to have a nice waterproofed light (I have been looking into this for the Q16)

There should be vent holes on the side for hot air to escape. I’d say such a design is so much better than a conventional design used in flashlights; it’s an extra feature. X65 has a conventional design and is doing pretty ok. The little X80 has 25000 lumens and is super tiny… Output on the other hand might be less than claimed, so maybe 25000 lumens or so?
Of course it’s going to step down fast. But you also have the 13000 lumen and 5000 lumen mode; great output levels!

Edit:

I think it’s going to step down between 2500 and 3000 lumens.

Soon we will see fans being installed for stock lights.

Put three fingers with a small gap between them in front of the other arm and blow on them, feel how little air goes through and around.
Now place your finger tips on your arm so the fingers are round, like the little vent holes on this round head, blow, even less air goes through and more hits your arms above where the fingers are placed.
Water and air will go the way of least resistance.
So the small fin wide gaps on this light are only good if actively cooled I think.

Resistance increases as you apply pressure by blowing. I think that is a difference with the cooling principle of this light, which is based on convection (temperature difference, ambient pressure). A small breeze when walking with the light outside should make a lot of difference.

We will have to see
My bet is that with unexposed small fins and a harsh stepdown they most likely use, covering the holes will not make a large difference (IF there is no fan there so it is not cooled actively)
And since they not show a fan, something that would be really cool and a good thing to emphasize I guess that it steps down based on time when the saturation point of the aluminium is reached (probably tested in a safe 25C environment and that after that it is based on temp.
And looking at the modes, it probably kicks back to 5K lumens initially when thermal monitoring has not engaged before the stepped down time (in a hotter environment.)
As a matter of fact, if not actively cooled in such relative small light for this high price I would expect some sophistication in stepdown management and development :smiley:

Current Imalent lights are temperature controlled (50 degrees C). I’d say thermal management is good with Imalent lights; it works well. Regarding price, well I can only feel Imalent “artificially” keep price fairly high, then you get good discount making the products really attractive. Look at current line up of DN/DT models; either there is a flash sale on a regular basis for almost half price, or you have an always working discount code also reducing the price to about half. Who doesn’t know “MACDEAL” by now?
But you know Miller, the DX80 is a really good example of how new flashlights keep us geeks busy and what’s to like about them. :+1: :beer:

Heheh agree :smiley:

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the DX80 has two vent holes on either side, could be active cooling but maybe not.

An RV refrigerator runs from an ammonia mixture being pushed around through tubes by a single small flame. Would it be possible to put a small tubes system around the head and it would use the heat from the led’s to push the refrigerant around to cool the whole head and even the handle off?

Heatpipes in a flashlight is an interesting concept, especially flat ones.

+1 for Q16 ! haha
Think of a small active cooling. There are very small fan like 20-40mm ones…running them at lower voltage don’t make too much noise. Im’ thinking of fins through the whole head body with a small fan on one edge.

There was a old amplifier of very high quality,a Sanyo Plus P55 series,which had a freon type of cooling.

I’m glad to finally hear more about this. This rumored light is why I skipped their first flood monster.

I’m back

Yes, like you said, the quality of the light and warranty really matters speccialy in high priced lights! The G30 have chronic issue with a short-circuit like was happened to me and Klarus do not made some recall or even replied who emailed the support

So, I almost the bought the DT70 when the preorder in Banggood was avaliable and some voice telled me to wait for review……. SO when the review in taschenlampe comes…… I’M GLAD TO NO BOUGHT THIS

The promisse was amazing, very high output with lage beam which come over a kilometer

Some mistery happened while I’ve sleep, they clam now 800m

I Bought the TN40 and I’m still happy now

Regarding price, Banggood has the DX80 listed for $380, but there is already a coupon discount present on Banggood’s DX80’s page. The discount value is 25%, reducing the price to $285 or 245 Euro.
So this is the starting price with eight batteries included. Well that’s dang nice isn’t it? :smiley:

Hmm let’s do a little napkin calculation here, as we would do when starting a new project.
All rough estimates on the little we know :wink:
Housing 10-20
Switch orings little stuff 2-4
LEDs 40-60
Ledboard 10-12
Lens 10-12
Driver 25-40
Strange CPU style cooling 5-10
Fan? 5-7

Cells 20-32
Electronics 4-8

Box 5-10

So between 136 205
We would go for an estimate somewhere in between so it could very well be $175 just to make it.

Of course they want profits, vendors want profits, development and marketing.
So yeah $250/275 seems fair.
Way too much to justify
If it has no active cooling and the stepdown is to a long running 2K or something, I would not want it, we can do better ourselves :smiley: