:+1: :+1: Is it possible to compare beams and output to a stock C8 (convoy) for example? Thanks for the review. 
nice review they look to be quality built lights. :+1:
unfortunately no, i dont have Convoy C8 but i have the old Ultrafire C8 with XML (not xml2)
The Convoy C8 with xml should have smaller hotspot.
This is Ultrafire C8 with the SMO reflector. It might not represent Convoy C8 in brightness but should be similar in beam pattern.
The Convoy C8 XPL should have even more throw i think and also smaller hotspot.
Does this light work with both flat top and button top batteries? Are unprotected cells OK to use in it?
It work with Samsung unprotected 18650 30Q with solder blob, doesn’t work without it.
Fenix 18650 ARB-L2 (68.3mm) protected batteries is too long.
I think any unprotected 18650s should work if you add solder blob, but LG HE4 should work without it as it has slightly elevated positive.
Thanks. I wonder if 18650GA protected would fit.
What might work if the batteries are a bit too long is the following trick:
- Remove tailcap
- Remove the 3 screws
- Place a ring (three times) on the screw, between the battery tube and the spring board
- Tighten everything, and make sure the o-ring is not exposed
- This increases effective battery tube length
Cheers. :partying_face:
yeah that might work as there is a space behind the board.
Nice review Thanks.
Wonder by recommend cell is Sanyo GA 18650 3500mAh ¿?
Great review! Thank you!
Did you measure Cd?
I think Haikelite’s people are very optimistic. I achieved 127.000 Cd (712m) with original XHP35 HD dedome.
The original flashlight barely reached 500 m.
Because it provides maximum runtime while delivering reasonably high current.
Thanks. By ‘ring’ do you mean a washer?
Sorry, yes that is the correct term. 
This is what i got:
haikelite MT02: 69120cd / 525m (800m Claimed)
Haikelite SC01: 92160cd / 607m (600m Claimed)
Haikelite MT07: 163584cd / 797m (750m Claimed)
Convoy L6: 78336cd / 559m
not sure why haikelite claimed MT02 as 800m throw lights? since other Haikelite throw is actually spot on.
yeah they seems overly optimistic regarding MT02.
My readings on MT02 are very similar to yours. I thought mine was underdriven. I feel better now.
Thank you.
I thought they changed to XHP35 HD because they couldn’t get a hold of the XHP35 HI emitters. Perhaps they tested with the HI version and just used this lux value.
Well, that’s disappointing. My MT02 is en route as I was hoping for a nice budget thrower… I think I should have just saved the money and gotten a Convoy C8…
It still is a lot of throw, and you have a lot more output as well. I believe the spill angle is pretty wide, so the total package may be surprisingly positive. If you still want more throw you can swap to XHP35 HI as well.
Edit:
Check out this video where a modded C8 is compared to the Acebeam L16 (also with XHP35) The latter has an HI emitter, but it’s housed in a smaller reflector, so it’s in a way comparable to the MT02 with an HD emitter in a larger reflector.
There is more to light than just the lux number (check out around 8 minutes 40 seconds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChGaNA5jLnc
I got something similar reading too.
500m+ is pretty decent when you are talking about 2000lm+ OTF. It is totally different breed compared with C8.
You still got a lot of throw i think, i am not sure how much throw a Convoy C8 XPL HI can make. But the one thing that MT02 is really good at is runtime, with 3x18650 in paralel and Samsung 30Q you have a total of 9000mah.
Haikelite SC01 throws better with smaller reflector and smaller hotspot.