Any one know the Zanflare B3 bike light

I can say from reading their “info” on this light and the zanflare rep posts that this light is goong to be a ton of fluff and this seperate led thing is IMHO just dumb.

As for daytime use, lights like these arent for road bikes. And having them get hot during the day isnt surprising at all. Cheap light suck in general for heat dissipation. Plus BLACK MATERIAL GETS HOT AS HELL IN SUNLIGHT, doesnt need any help so just worse because sunlight is amplifying the heat that needs to be dissipated.

@Zanflare: your market data is false. 2/3 buy cool white not by choice, thats how most lights are made. Cool white emitters appear brighter (but you cant see safely for crap) and are cheaper. Neutral white you can actually see whats in front of you. All the manifacturers that arent neutral white fully yet offer nuetral white or have fully switched to nuetral white.

Truth be told, us over at MTBR are the ones that fully understand bike lights. Night riding is life for us. But I know most brands dont want us to get ahold of their lights because one of the first things I do is put it on my integrated sphere. And the light your building isnt going to produce 2200 lumens. Too many things are being done wrong for that.

You have our good Head design (though screwing over GJHS wasnt cool) but you really need to quite trying to do things like using reflectors. Especially for the price.

Ill break a few things down for you:

3 leds on full time with simple modes is more efficient. To get 700 lumens on single emitter with you reflector/lens plan your pushing 2+ Amps out of the best cree xm-l2 or xpl. Then your trying to push the math from there.

Nothing about this light is “new technology”. 3 seperate led system has been done and was abandoned by most. Split led lights are everywhere.

The internal design in your pictures is the same failed design of every other cheap light. Poor thermal path. Which is the other reason why 2200 lumens will not be acheived. Trying to push high heat from the leds straight through the electronics with poor thermal path. Which means you had to turn the power down.

If you want to be able to compete with other brands, you have a lot of work and research to do. Or as is it can be an ok light but needs to be sold at a price that makes more sense.

Right on tig! You tell ’em!

-Garry

2000lm claim is plausible with current Zanflare team, but will you need to pair it with a good battery pack.

I am haven been searching for a headlamp with insane number of fins (point to the right wind direct) like B3. I still buy one when price settle at more reasonable level later. Perhaps they should come out with a more compact dual NW LEDs version at cheaper price bracket.

*agree.

we need to put these marketing putzes in their place!

it would be fine for $30 if it had a battery pack

it;s no better than 100 amazon lights, totally unreliable claims, performance, reliability

wle*

Umm . . . $30 can hardly buy a decent battery pack! The 4-cell (2S2P) Panasonic cell packs from KD run $33. Maybe with a junk recycled laptop cell pack (like most Chinese packs). Expecting it for $30 with even just a low capacity decent pack is unreasonable. And this light would never even come close to it’s rated output with such a pack (IF it can even reach it’s claimed output). A decent Chinese light with “decent” 2S2P pack should run at a minimum $40, probably more like $50. $60 isn’t bad for a light that gets a good review.

-Garry

zanflare might want to go shill some place less gullible
{look those words up!}

i accept the tradeoffs of the $25 lights with battery packs
you may not

so far the zanflare shills are not releasing anything for review that i know of

instead they are begging for money on indiegogo

wle

For an example,buying a $25 clothes or a $50 clothes , it is up to you. Different people have different demands.

Like everything you get what you pay for.

Sorry if I seem a bit sour, but the guys with more years in this than me that got me into all this like garry, mole, ledoman etc all put a lot of time and thought then gjhs put countless hours working with zanflare/gearbest to get this going. And i have some time invested too. So im not going to play so nice in this matter. Ill call it as I see it.

2200 lumens on current design isnt happening with the other claims regarding heat zanflare has already posted here. And ill put $100 that its current design doesnt hit 1800 lumens out the front.

And also it seems someone from over there is playing the MTBR guys to drive up attention for this light over there. Think im the only one that caught it so far (hope the other mtbr guys here take a look closer and see if im right our wrong).

Gearbest/Zanflare, just be honest and stop trying the bad tactics and such here and mtbr. Get a much better reseption and help with honesty. Your trying to hang out with the big boys, need to step up and play right or go away.

I am sorry, Garry. I was banned for commercial company on MTBR forum, I could not read your post there, hope you can PM me, thank you so much.

I mentioned details about samples review and Group Buy. But the focus is: all things must be based on real reviews.

I have applied for 10pcs samples before putting it to market, so that we can have a check about its quiality or as you said potential worrying problems.

We will of course send samples to MTBR reviewers since MTBR forum is another authoritive place on Bike lights.

Sincere feedback will be sent to the public by professional experts or reviewers, no profits but long term trust and reliablity.

Any comments will be highly appreciated, thank you all.

Get a light to Garry for review, Gearbest. All the speculation about the B3 is worthless.

PM Sent. I look forward to getting a sample for a real review. I think we can all agree though that we want to see it with neutral white LEDs.

-Garry

i think that doesn’t really need saying
wle

Agree this is what needs to be done. Neutral White mandatory!

How many of the lights in your avatar are neutral white?

Can you post a better picture of all that awesomeness?

Actually none of those lights are NW, it's an old picture (but Kool) from before my first NW light (beloved BT21 Nitefighter). Since then of the 13 new lights I've gotten 9 have been NW and 4 CW (2 of the CW lights were gifts). Most notable for this thread is the C&B Seen 7up ($53 delivered/wireless remote/2000+ measured lumens) which I look forward to comparing to the B3.

GearBest was struggling to understand what neutral white means, or finding those emitters to ship, as of a while ago.
Read through this thread around the time of this reply: Original/Real Yinding YD 2xU2 found | Page 51 | Mountain Bike Reviews Forum

That history suggests they may be needing a good bit of assistance with feedback and explanations of the quality control inspection of the samples.

They’re trying.

I believe that was Yinding’s fault. GearBest made it right, but it put a big strain on the relationship between Yinding & GearBest - so much so that we couldn’t get Yinding to be the manufacturer of our custom 3 emitter light.

-Garry

GearBest is in fact sending me a sample for review. It will be a cool white version as this is what is available right now to send. Neutral white will be coming. I will try my best to get the review done quickly.

-Garry

That’s helpful to know. And it illustrates one aspect of the “quality fade” problem — do not trust the parts suppliers to keep sending the best quality parts.

That’s part of what quality control is supposed to do — check a sample of each batch to catch any substitutions or mistakes going into assembling the product.

GearBest did finally send me the replacement board, twice; the first one came crushed into powder in the little plastic shipping bags.

Gotta remember the shipping company uses our packages as anvils for cracking hardshelled nuts ….

Sample received this morning. Link to MTBR initial pics. Look for a new thread (a link will be posted in that thread, perhaps I’ll remember to post one back here too) for the actual review.

-Garry