[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

Thank you Texas_Ace

Oh, on the contrary. I was more worried about the declaration given by the buyer, the recipient. More specifically there was discussion on forging an invoice or fraudulently presenting an unrelated or incomplete document to make the product value appear low, thus avoiding taxes and duties.

I didn’t mean the notoriously inaccurate and untrue formal stuff printed on a shipment. I mean the actual declaration of contents and price paid that is requested by the the customs and given by buyer in case the shipment is processed more than just letting it pass. Only a few flashlights and similar items will get his process, but large and expensive looking examples have a higher risk.

Around here and illegal or restricted items aside, most often they look for items that may exceed import VAT limits that are typically lower than import duty limits. Varies a lot by country even within EU.

Some parcel services also want to have everything declared in some countries of destination, and what I stated earlier applies to regular postal service.

What did you expect? He is, after all, from the United State of Texas! Well said TA. No reason for LT or the blf contributors to have any undue liability.

Yeah this sums up the situation. I agree with you and I am not saying that Lumintop needs to be involved in this tax avoid thing. But you know Chinese sellers generally do their best for this situation. Maybe Lumintop is one of them and they may take some extra caution for this if we talk them. (not saying we should talk)

Anyway, I will decide whether or not to buy this light if you tell me,

1) Exact shipping cost ($50 ?) . For the case packages go back.
2) Is that certain that both packages will have $14 written on them?
3) Exact Paypal or any other cost for refunding.
4) Weight of the two packages.

These are all of my questions for tax. I will not ask more question related to this topic because I agree that it is unpleasant.

If I can not and if I let the packages go back, I will (of course) get the refund with any fees deducted. I can not complain about this. But I want to find out the total fee to be deducted to decide whether or not to buy it like I have said (If I refuse to pay tax).

But if you say that even though fees will be deducted from refund, you need to accept paying tax before buying. I think this is unfair.

1: The actual shipping costs will vary by destination and method. Exact costs will depend on final weights and other factors. I would take a VERY rough guess and say it is around $30-$50. I have very little experience with china shipping prices except what I have learned in the last few months though.
2: Yes, as I understand it LT will put the cost of the lights as $14 for each of the 2 package shipment
3: This will be determined after the fact but I would take another guess that fees for paypal and the like would be between $5 - $10 depending on the price you paid and exactly how paypal works in China, might have higher fees over there. Call it $10 to cover the time and effort that lumintop would have to spend dealing with the returns as well.
4: The total weight of the light is around 2.2kg + packaging. figure that will be roughly split between 2 packages, it will most likely not be an even split. Then add any cells if those were ordered as well.

You are obviously welcome to make your own decisions on what to do about the taxes but they are yours alone to make.

If you figure it is worth the risk, then that is up to you. Seeing as I would expect the total deduction from any refund to be at least $50, that is a lot of money to throw away vs just paying the taxes IMHO.

+1

In my country to enter any package can not avoid the import procedures in any way, must be made prior to arrival in the country

The declaration must present the invoice, proof of payment (Paypal) and photocopies of the credit card and identity document, must match the name of the buyer in each of them, must also match the number of the card in proof of payment
This way Big Brother can verify if everything is true
There is no chance of evading

I am going to use DHL shipping

PS. I also need as soon as possible the tracking number to fill out and submit the declaration before the arrival of the package to the country

One has to pay taxes, the other one no. It’s lucky or Country Rules so there is no space to discuss about it :wink:
Lets do pay 14$ and wait… When we will have to pay 14$?

Yes
We are checking some last things and when it all is settled will prepare a PM.
I hope Mr Scott and SB have figured out sending bulk PMs soon :wink:

After paying the $14 first part payment how much prepare time in advance we get before we have to pay the last part?
It would be nice to know because there has been this really short only 5 day window to make payments.
Easier to do with smaller amounts but sudden bigger amounts within only 5 days to be paid may sometimes be difficult to get sufficient amount of money to Paypal account on time.

The Miller, is the core list going to be updated?

Yes of course, just very busy and hardly sitting behind a PC these days. But will do tomorrow.

Adsum, not clear, but there will be time in between.

Okay,just trying sort out in which order to buy these upcoming special lights.
BLF GT is on a top of my list but still trying get the other ones too.
I just hope that not all have such tight timelines when to buy or at least not too many surface in a same month too close together.

The rush on the down payments is due to lumintop wanting to put them into production ASAP and they want to get an idea of how many to have made.

I have been AWOL a couple of days & have question.

Is a down payment due now or will there be a notification PM or email?

Waiting for mass/group PM notifications. I’m sure they’ll also update the OP.

Edit:

I’m so excited for this light, Have been antsy and nearly caved in on getting a thrower. That TN42 deal a month or so ago was so enticing, nearly pulled the trigger.

Thank you for the info xCentrino. :+1:

I have a feeling you will be happy you waited for the GT…… :wink:

One question: Will the issues of the prototypes be appropriately addressed? I specifically mean a lower resistance of the carriers and a better finish of the reflector.

I’m #378 richnpc, please remove my name from the list.

I know and I`m totally OK with it.That is why I suggested that they would make this 2-way payments parts thing in my earlier post.
Just would like to prepared and informed some weeks before the bigger payment is due.