Buck and Boost Drivers, Testing, Modding, and Discussion (Pic Heavy)

So I somehow managed to break the UI on an H1-A today. One of the new ones I got yesterday from KD. I put it in an M2 quad host running 2S2P XPG3s.

Funny part is that this is the least modded driver I have, all I did to it was bypass the spring with solder braid, replace the stock output wires for 22AWG, and file the edge of the ground ring a little bit. Stock sense resistor and stock output voltage.

The boost converter is still working since the light turns on. I just only have one mode, which seems to be maybe 40% - 60% power. Definitely not full power as the light can run for a long time without getting hot.

I’ll pull it apart when I get a chance to investigate, for now it is at least a useable light.

How is that copper braid bypass working for you?

I kept burning through it on my L6.

I’ve never had a problem with mine, but I run 2 pieces in parallel. (really just one piece folded in half)

I tried that as well and it still burned through. It was only pulling 12 amps at the time. Now that I’m pulling 17 amps I switched to regular wire. So far so good.

So my driver fixed itself overnight. It didn’t work when I used it last night, it sat untouched on my desk for about 24 hours, just picked it up and it works fine now.

Lol, very true, I still plan to take it back apart, for now it serves it’s purpose as my desk light though.

Were you able to machine a shelf into the pill? The pill barely seems wide enough. FWIW an Eagle Eye A6 can also (with a little work) accommodate an H1-A and still use its retaining ring — which is a plus when it comes time to flash the driver.

I’ve managed to flash an H1-A with a home made programmer (based on a Raspberry Pi). I’m curious if the PICKIT programmers can use target power with the H1-A? In other words, is the 2.5V (or whatever the PIC is provided) enough for the PICKIT’s buffers to operate?

I’ve severely abused one H1-A in particular and it’s still alive and well.

Got two ThorFire TA13s powered with H2-Cs and the aforementioned XHP35 HI C2 30G leds. Nice builds, I've decided not to ramp up the current, heck, emitters already reach ≈125°C on turbo (1.5A driving current, temperature measured directly in front of the emitter with infrared thermometer). Of course, the hosts get hot but still manageable (my friends don't exactly think so but that's to be expected).

I also like the mode spacing: über-low, low, medium and turbo/high.

What I really like is its high efficiency when going 2S input to 4S emitter, this should result in being able to drive XHP70/XHP70.2s at a quite high amount of power (mounted in 12V DTP SinkPADs). Of course, just speculating…

The MP3428 chip on H2-C is rated for almost 20A input, the main letdown is the need for external rectifier FET and the poor board layout for the ground.

I have many more drivers on my bench right now including FX35 and a Kaidomain 25mm buck-boost. Just been busy with work and planning a wedding.

Also working with another member to get an MP3431 driver developed. 21A input current could be fun. Output voltage on MP3431 is well suited to both 12V and 6V also.

Big part of why I am such a fan of boost drivers is this right here.

This is my latest S2+ triple, running in series with an H1-A Boost driver. Because it is in series the current is the same in all emitters regardless of the Vf. This allows us to freely mix emitters.

So I put a 219B SW40 R9080, 319AT SM355 R8000, and XP-G3 3000k 90+ together. 3 very different emitters, and yet they all work. The blended tint is really quite nice and is somewhere around the 3500k mark. Add

Interesting. I thought the H1-A didn’t output high enough voltage for three 3V emitters in series. I should get one too then.

It doesn’t as they come straight from KD, but if you change the 47k FB resistor to a 75k, it does it without issue. Been running a few 3S triples this way for a couple of months now with no problems. Still very efficient too.

Super, thanks!

Did you also changed other resistors to get more Amps?

I changed the R025 to an R030 to reduce the current, since all 3 emitters see the full current.

ThorFire TA13 lens measured at ∅31.5mm outer, ∅26.5mm effective inner, 8.1mm thickness. Pocket friendly.

Its o-ring is also of 31.5mm outer diameter, 1.5mm thickness. Water tightness seems good for a zoomie.

Cheers ^:)

Originally posted on Fri, 09/15/2017 - 18:40. Edited for a lens measurement data fix.

Peeked more in-depth in the TLF SF30A review & modding thread khas linked. My modded TA13s should be achieving ≈50Klux fully focused, considering ≈20W reach their XHP35 HI C2 30Gs.

Interesting the inner cylinder extension (≈5mm) mod proposal, I wonder who would be willing to craft such a piece for a reasonable cost (preferably in copper). It is a bit @#$% to see how the torch designers didn't realized this beforehand.

Cheers

Original post date: Fri, 09/15/2017 - 22:22. Edited for a lil fix.

Doesn’t it emit some IR (or near-IR) as a a part of the light output?
I have felt an IR heat out of the front of lights on medium power, where the Noctigon and host are fairly cool.
If so, it would completely skew the reading. (also, I’ve seen approx. 125C as the upper measurement limit on some IR thermometers)

Some infra-red output, agnelucio? Don't really know, but if that is true then maybe I can step up my 3000K emitter power a bit higher without much of a worry…

The thermometer is an old high end unit, not sure if its user manual is buried in my user manuals' drawer but I am pretty sure it measures way beyond 125°C, I could measure 210°C in my smoky electric frier just last night. It even has a laser for aiming.

Cheers :-)