Comparison: Stainless Steel AA Flashlight – Amutorch XPG3-S3 vs “Neal’s” Nichia 219C


Ahah, you’re right :smiley: Great difference really!! (Nichia on the left, XML2 T6-4C on the right)
I guess the Nichia is not 3500K, because if it was wouldn’t it be a bit more yellowish?
This seems to tend to the be more like 4000K, could it be?

The LED itself is darker than the XML2, but the emitted colour seems to be tending more to NW, in comparison!

But I guess I don’t know anymore :person_facepalming:
Here: I took the lenses and reflectors out of the lights and put them against the wall! (XML2 T6-4C on the Left > Nichia 219C on the right)

What to say? :expressionless:

Yup, the pebbled gives a really cool beam! I’m not sure, but maybe I’ll change from the reflector to the TIR…

Hey, did anyone ever buy from illumn.com? They have some bare 219BTs.

Just wondering if they’re reliable, if they stink, etc. I’ll be the guinea pig and run some in different lights to compare, too.

Do it! Do it! :smiling_imp:

Actually, if I recall right, Nichias have less “tint-shift” than Crees, so the bennies of a TIR vs reflector may not be as drastic. Still, I’m getting to like TIRs lots more than I did before.

A nice S2+, wide-angle TIR, and a 219B… that’d make a damned fine close-quarters light!

Sorry, can’t help with that! But then let us know how they shine :wink:

Ooookkkkk, I did it :stuck_out_tongue:
Today I changed the reflector for a pebbled lens! Despite there was no major shifting in colour, as you said, the TIR lens enables other illumination, more floody! For my indoor use and the close range things I need it, it is better with the TIR than with the reflector!

I cut the plastic holder and that not only helps to fix better the lens and the LED, and it also helps to get a more homogeneous beam. I was using a small plastic gasket around the LED, but with that, in a real close beam, the small “blobs” of the lens were being noticed. With the holder in the back it gets more homogeneous :+1:

Niiiiice. :smiley:

Nice job :+1:

I have, they are good 4000K 219B’s, no issues at all.

:smiley: :sunglasses:
Yeah, this wins over the reflector :wink:

Thank you :smiley: Not as nice as some builds or mods I’ve seen (if you know what I mean), but thanks :wink:

I guess that “warm” is the new ’cool’, isn’t it? :sunglasses:

Yep, warm is cool and cool is hot :smiley:

Very nice info MascaratumB !

Eheh, indeed! :smiling_imp: :sunglasses:
I must confess that at first I thought that the flashlights with that “white” strong light were the best, and that those with “yellow” lights were old-fashioned, that they didn’t illuminate anything, as the “old” incandescent lights were a bit like that.
Then I got my first Convoy S2+ with the XML2 T6-4C, and my opinion radically changed!
Now I got my first Nichia, with a beautiful tint (the photos cannot express how good it looks at human sight!!!), and I’ve been converted :innocent:

Not that I’ll become a “tint snob” or that all my lights will all have these warm tints, but I surely be more aware of what can I expect from a light with a more warm tint like this :student:

Thanks! I hope it helps :wink:

Excellent, thanks!

Yes, you will. It takes time, but once you go there, you never want to go back. :smiley:

Actually, I’m itchin’ to try those really warm Nichias that FT sells.

Just gotta figure out which host to put it in, as I gotta use a TIR for these puppies. Guessing that means an S2+…

Hmm, more later!

You mean those 219A 2200K (or something like that) ones?
They’re not high CRI. :frowning:
I got me a bunch a wile ago (ordered 3 pcs, they somehow sent me 6 pcs) but they’re not more that 80 CRI.
They are cheap though…

I can confirm that… :smiley:

Especially with the warmer tints your eyes expect higher CRI and more deep red.
With cooler tints (5000K and more) i can live with lower CRI better.
And then the Crees benefit from their higher efficiency.
I still quite like the 3A tint from Cree LEDs.

Yep. I figure even 80cri is better than The Usual™. Something warm, juuuust to have one, would be nice.

Worse comes to worse, they’d make nice nightlights. :smiley:

Eheh, maybe I will :wink: I’m still learning about these CRI and tint things (among a lot of others… :person_facepalming: ), so I have a long path to run before that!
But now I’m sure I’m more inclined to get neutral to warm tints, despite CRI numbers as they are better to the eyes!

At least one of these AA flashlights will get a neutral LED (XML2 T6-3B) just to try how it works in terms of colour and fitting the lens itself! I guess it will be “cool” to have several in each colour temperature :sunglasses:
From then on…it’s just a matter of time to become snobish :smiley: Eheheh

Nice comparison! Flashlight review turned into optics demonstration very informative, thanks. :slight_smile:

Thanks djozz :wink: Yup, it was a bit like that, as the main review was already made, so the more important and useful things (for me, at least) would be to provide information about other possibilities of lenses or reflector, or how the tint would look on those! :wink:

Hope this helps to other mods, in these or other flashlights :sunglasses: