groupbuy (ALIVE) NEW Lumintop Tool AA

Thank you ‘M4D “Martin” M4X’…… :+1: … :smiley:

I picked up a couple…… :wink:

Lots more pics on the Lumintop site now.
http://www.lumintop.com/tool-aa.html

The LED in the AA Tool is XP-L
If the AA Tool is anything like the AA Maratac, it will have PWM also. The Maratac offers a Nichia LED.

The “low” mode of the AA Tool is 7 lumens, similar to the AA Maratac (made by Lumintop)
yes the AA Tool officially takes 14500, so does the AA ReyLight Pineapple (also made by Lumintop, and like the Maratac, offers a Nichia).

The Pineapple also has PWM. The Pineapple has a sublumen low that the Maratac and AA Tool lack.

NO the AA tool does not have Low Voltage Cutoff… Like the Pineapple, the AA Tool calls for protected cells.

see

this flashlight need to use protected battery and there is no low voltage protection

:person_facepalming:

Thanks for the heads up on this jon-slider! :+1:

My only question: is it that hard for Lumintop and Banggood (as the seller, in this case) to include that info in the specs sheet?!!! Why do we have to be digging for this kind of - IMPORTANT - information when it was supposed to be on the specs?

Also, is it that hard for LT to make these lights with LVP? Unless it was made only for alkaline batteries - which is not -, a flashlight like this, that can use Ni-MH and Li-Ion, should have (in my humble perspective) Low Voltage Protection and Reverse Polarity Protection. Mandatory! :person_facepalming:

It is annoying to know this, I must say! I’ll probably have to buy 14500 protected batteries to use it with full power…

Thanks again for the heads up! :+1:

correct :slight_smile:
be a good consumer, when you buy stuff, you have to accessorize and buy stuff for your stuff

buy protected cells for your inexpensive unprotected Tool
and or
buy unprotected and take personal responsibility for monitoring battery level
and or
buy lights with built in protection
and or
buy Lithium primaries
and or
buy Eneloops
and or
buy Alkaleaks,
so you can
buy new lights when they leak

Yeah, I’m more like this kind :smiley:

I try to, but sometimes they don’t “spec” it :laughing:

If the light have no problems with the lenght, I have not problem in buy 14500 protected. 18650 are very common and realiable, but there are not a lot invested in create top quality 14500 (I think), for 14500 I always prefer protected batteries.

In any case, probably I will use my tool AA (when arrive) with NiMH P. Eneloop of fujitsu (the most reliable for NiMH) or with Primaly Lithium. For Li-Ion there are nice and compact EDC 18650 today :smiley:

Got mine

It’s not really compact, the same size as a T10.
Low mode should be lower, tint is really cold white, with hints of green around the spot and some purple hue in the outer spill (due to AR glass I would guess).
High mode on Eneloop is not impressive, lower than my T10.
On 14500 it’s impressive, I think this one will run on li-ion :slight_smile:
The clip is not sturdy (same quality than AAA tool), but is sturdy enough to stay on the light firmly.
Tailcap is good, the clicky switch is precise and gives a good feedback.
I will not use the magnetic tailcap, because I don’t like AA twisties.

It should find a place in my EDC rotation, after a Nichia swap :wink:

Does it have the raised ring around the positive contact on the driver which mandates button top cells?

219C swap

So, 14mm aluminum LED board, non DTP.
I don’t know what the SMD component is, but I guess it’s just a shunt (0 ohm)
Anyway, much better now with the 219C 5000K

It seems very similar to the Pineapple Reylight driver. Seems to have a little “top” to make contact with the battery, right?
Did you use 14500 with or without button top? Any “rattle” with the battery?

Thanks for the review, just saved me money.
Don’t need another AA Flashlight with cold tint that needs an emitter upgrade.
Was hoping they would be at least a neutral white and also think you are spot on about the AR glass making things worse.
Later,

Keith

That was with a button top 14500, and the battery rattles a bit, tolerance is a bit lose in diamter

Thanks - X3-!! Mine will arrive the next days! Gonna see how the cells I have work ! :+1:

thank you for the extra info

Tja….

Today I received the Tool AA, and quite unfortunately (for Lumintop) today I also received a Utorch UT01 (my first), both lights have a Cree XP-L led and both are suitable for use with NiMh and alkalines. I got them for a comparable price.

Let me start with this: nowadays the only reason for me to buy a AA format flashlight is for use with Eneloops, since the Aspire 18350 has become available I hardly see rationality for 14500 lights anymore unless the capacity will at least double. In that perspective here’s my impression:

So I placed an Eneloop Pro cell in both flashlights, both were at 1.33 V. Here’s how they look side-by-side on a white wall, ToolAA on the right:

That output difference is so huge!!! the ToolAA is roasted by the Utorch, nothing can make up for that anymore, mind that the Tool AA is a brand new light with a Cree XP-L, how hard can it be?! In numbers, with these reasonably charged up Eneloops, at 30s: 248lm for the UT01 (flat regulated. Very nice!), 84lm for the ToolAA (slowly dropping). Swapping the batteries did not change anything. Btw, the tint of the Utorch is quite a bit better (plain white with a hint of rose) than the tint of the Tool (slightly greenish yellow).

Waving the two lights in front of my phone camera shows the low frequency PWM (<1000Hz) of the ToolAA, while no PWM can be seen with the UT01.

Conclusion: Lumintop listen, I really like the form factor of the ToolAA but your boost drivers are lightyears behind the competition, the ToolAA is a nice upgrade for an ancient Ultrafire C3, but even with its XP-L it has nothing to do with a modern flashlight.

Left to right: Utorch UT01, JaxmanE2L (my EDC, 1200lm of 97CRI), Lumintop ToolAA, Ultrafire C3

Thanks Djoss for the info…Sadly I bought this light because I wanted some AA flashlight. And I have the Utorch UT01 but if your picture is right I will bury this light and never buy a light from lumintop anymore. This is disgusting.

I would not call it disgusting, Lumintop has work to do! I like almost all of their designs, now they need to get their electronics in order.

How is the runtime on NiMH? It might not be bad if it does not pull much on the cell?
How does it do on 14500?

Mine should show up soon…