Luminus SST-40, a N4 BA bin tested

I am very confident sst40 dedome outthrow xpl dedome in both lumen and lux… I need opinions from you. Thanks.

Well the SST-40 will have much more lumen and I think throw should be similar. But the SST-40 will run much hotter at over 8 amps vs the XP-Ls 6 amps.

Well, whaddayaknow…

€19.48 shipped from DE to NL.
Ordered and payed just now.

Hey, that’s a fairly good deal too.
New listing? Hadn’t found it previously, or maybe i thought it was too expensive… (?)

Ordered this to try out… $35.09 shipped….http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toluene-Toluol-1000-mL-32-fl-oz-/201393760689?hash=item2ee400e9b1:g:I7QAAOSwDNdVsQ2r

MEK hot or cold just ain’t getting it for me….

Oooh - KB, you beat me to it, but that was a help . I got an unused can of MEK sit'n around. Keep us posted - it's expensive though but interested to see if it works.

I had hoped that you guys would have held out until I’ve had the time to do more testing :stuck_out_tongue:

Vinh stopped fully removing SST-40 domes, now he shaves them. He says it gives him the same throw, but better output.

Haha :smiley:

Your picture of the nitro thinner dedomed SST-40 next to the toluene dedomed SST-40 shows exactly why we should use toluene.
The greenish tint is all to familiar to chemical dedomers, we all want the other result (right one in the picture).
Also, the fact that a tough dome like SST-40 is gone after a short while, and without heating the solvent, is another reason to get pure toluene.

:+1:

Hotspot with toluene dedoming is also visibly larger, which should mean silicone is not completely removed, smaller tint shift also indicates that.

What driver can I use for this diode to achieve 6V Vf?

Hmm… You might be right…

This could also be because of different C8 hosts. I couldn’t completely screw the bezel down on the Toluene one. So it might just be different focus.

Edit: I’ll swap the mcpcb in both host and check if it makes a difference on the hotspot.

I use only nitro paint thinner and tint shift is nearly invisible . I don’t know why he got such a warm tint , seems really weird …

Yeah, that is weird. But as far as I know everyone else who uses nitro thinner gets the green tint shift. Do you boil the liquid? Does yours contain acetone?

What do you mean by tint shift is nearly invisible? Does it still turn slightly green?

Just nitro paint thinner , no boiling . No , it’s not getting green …

I don’t know what it contains . Will try to post beamshot soon

Wish you show us and explain your procedure little better. Can you Show result of your hot/cold nitro de doming vs toulene ( photo of both de domed emitters).

It seems that you discover something new and good and community will be grateful if you reveal your method. If you can show us photo of your method. I really looking forward to it.

IME when you take the dome to the bare phosphor no matter which method tint shift will happen…
I had similar results with hot dedome(2 methods of this hot de doming, there are 90% chance of leaving silicone residue on emitter after that methods and yes that will lead to less tint shift(tint shift still happens) cause there are still some silicone remains sticked to emitter phosphor surface). Solvent methods take all that silicone to the bare phosphor and they maybe even recycle micro particles of phoshor so yes there is probably a chance for even greater tint shift.

So your toulene method takes all the silicone to the bare phosphor but tint shift almost did not happened? Hmm… Well It could be…

My guess that toulene leaves some silicone residues on phosphor. Or how to say it can’t dissolve the part of the silicone that is merged with emitter phosphor surface. And if that happens it is good… Real good… Can you please show us results with photo?

I’m about to do that, just haven’t had the time to do it today… But I don’t have a specific procedure yet as I’ve only done it once with toluene. It could just be a fluke, even though I don’t think so.

And as you said, if it leaves a tiny bit of the silicone over the phosphorus I don’t mind. I happily sacrifice a bit of throw for a tint without green.

Hey Sledgestone,

do you rinse the dedomed led with something or just leave it to dry?

Good question! I didn’t clean it at all, just let it dry. After every other dedome I rinsed with isopropyl alcohol and they’ve turned out bad. So I’ve been a little suspicious that this could be part of the green shift.

Even the LEDs that I didn’t dedome but cleaned with isopropyl seem to have worse tint than the ones that I’ve never cleaned.