I know. Iām trying to say that you shouldnāt get your hopes up. Especially PBPB will probably never happen. I have never seen this with any of their LEDs.
Yeah, I know 
I still plan to buy several of the Q8WPs when they become available to test them myself.
Probably get one or two from each of the product listings.
Do you know of any other potentially high intensity LEDs? the Lumileds one that djozz tested recently had really good thermal properties and efficiency, maybe something from that brand looks promising?
Yes, the Osram Synios I linked to above. It beats the Black Flat. Other than that - no.
Interesting talk guysā¦
I am also waiting something like this
to beat old XP-G2 and I hope it will have slightly higher Vf so I can run it on fet driver 1x18650 lights 
Beamshots are always a nice thing. I had a few more.
This is what it looks like when you are holding the light and walking around in the woods, although the pic is a bit overexposed:
I love those night shots The_Driver.
Good idea ! I greatly admire your skills and abilities
Thanks guys 
I found some pictures which I though I had accidentaly deleted.
This one demonstrates nicely what effect the (soon to be gone!) plug in the middle of the lens has:
StarWars?
With a shortend exposure only the beam stays visible:
Wait for heavy fog for even better and more extreme light sabre pics.
Look at my avatar. 400kcd Dereelight at heavy fog.
But of course and this are very nice pics :+1:
Thanks!
More shots from a better camera will follow in time.
After being broken for the last half year, the light has now been fixed. The insulation of the cables running through the copper cylinder to the LED had been damaged by sharp edges which led to a short circuit. This killed the LED.
Michael (RC-Lights) used a steel rope coated in chalk and tooth paste to smoothen the edges of the holes after re-drilling them at an angle by pulling it through a few hundred times. The new cables were also put into shrink tube to make the insulation more robust. This should be enough to never have this problem again.
I sent him three more Black Flat LEDs which he tested and compared with one of the older ones. One them was better than all of the other LEDs (so it's the best of nine). He also switched out the sense resistor to reduce the current from 5A to 4.5A. This keeps the LED from going blue.
After refocusing the light now does 1.7Mcd measured at 14m! 
In addition to this Michael did the following things:
- Replaced the second electronic switch with a different type. Now both of them are used for the ramping, one for ramping up and one for ramping down
- Following the recommendation of the manufacturer, a 4.7uF capacitor was connected in parallel to the leads going from the battery to the driver to prevent voltage spikes
- Additional cables were soldered to the Stripe dimmer module to make connecting it to the USB programmer easier
- A new firmware was flashed onto the dimmer which raises the PWM frequency from 2kHz to 14kHz to prevent the high-pitched buzz coming from it when the light was dimmed
- Repaired the cracked, plastic bezel with epoxy
- Replaced the UCLp lens with a new one which no longer has a hole in the middle and doesn't have any cracks
The dimmer connected to the USB programmer:
After this the light was finally finished. It was time to use it.
Here are some beamshots comparing the light to Michael's Superthrower, which has an Olight SR-90 reflector (88mm) and a Cree XP-L HI. It does around 650kcd. The performance of Michael's light is very similar to the Thrunite TN42.
First a shorter distance, maybe around 100m:
Next, the main target was an unlit cell phone mast at a distance of 1.2km (0.75mi).
Wide:
Tele:
At last a pic with 30s exposure just for fun:
Surely more pictures will follow. :)
Nice picturesā¦
I am sure that ladies will like look of Michael superthrower.
Nice
Unfortunately your light is still #23 in longest throwing flashlights because there was nobody else between 1.5 and 1.7Mcd lol
Still a great improvement for using the same LED.
Thanks guys!
Well, yes. We didnāt do this to be higher up on the list. The best remaining LED of the first six did not reach the same luminance as the dead LED. I wanted the light to be as good as it was back in the summer, when it was first built.
Any chance you might sell your new toy? Just asking. It looks amazing. How does it compare to the GT? Performance wise? Would you guys be willing to make another monster thrower for sale?
Nope, never! I waited years for this to become reality and it has now taken 10 months since the project started. I only had the light for close to two weeks before it broke and havenāt gotten it back yet since it was repaired.
It weighs about half as much as the GT (only three batteries instead of eight, the head is lighter), throws a bit further, has a hotspot 1/5th the size and a much darker spill. It also never overheats and is perfectly regulated with any kind of 18650 until the batteries are empty. The driver of the GT has more U.I. features you can activate and play around with though.
Building another one would cost at least 1500$, probably more. Why would you want that when you can just buy the BLF GT for 1/10th the price and get similar or better performance?
I already have the GT. An amzing light indeed it is. But I just love throwers. I like collecting the best and brightest throwers out there.
Iām still waiting for someone to built a 3/4 million candela super thrower, with a least 6/8 K lumens, any chance you might be working on something like that? Most importantly, is the LED needed for such a project even exist yet?
6000-8000otf lumens with 3Mcd from one LED is currently only possible by combining a Luminus CFT-90 or Cree XHP70.2 with a very large optic or reflector. Those are practically the only LEDs which are that bright. The CFT-90 is the much better suited of the two. It reaches almost the same luminance as the Black Flat I used in my light here, but with 8-times the die size.
I finally have the light back in my hands. Before sending it back Michael also took some "artsy" beamshots. The light is great for long exposure times because of the rather dark spill.
Nobody up there has answered yet...