I made some suggestions some time ago which they integrated into SP10B updated firmware (finished 10/20) but the most important update (to me) that was NOT included was for them to change it from “hold for ON” to a “one click for ON”. So I conveyed the importance of that change to them (as well as always starting on ML) and they’ll look into it this week I presume, and we’ll see what happens from there. They might not change it at all if they feel they don’t need to, so don’t hold your breath…
If they’re already using single fast click to cycle through modes, then how can they also use it for on/off?
Or are you suggesting to use single fast click to turn ON, but still use long click to turn OFF?
Yes, one click for ON and 0.3 second hold for OFF, then when OFF, hold 0.3 seconds to go to last mode (like the Manker and Utorch).
I’d also prefer another group mode that cycles ML>L>M>H>OFF>etc., more muggle friendly that way…
That’s the way how SP32 works, click for ON, hold to change modes and long click for OFF! I guess it would be doable!
I understand what you (k-wong) said, so I won’t hold my breath, but it would be nice if they could tell you something about that change (or not change) in the SP10B firmware!
Once you are in touch with them, maybe them can give you an update the status of that 
This would give room to always start on ML, as well, wouldn’t it? That would be nice as well (for me, I say)!
Right now there’s no change, but I did submit a request after I found out the one click for ON was not implemented. So I’ll update if they decide to do that or not. :+1:
Probably they invented a new cell like this superb 1800mAh AAA https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/47013 /Sofirn%20AAA%201800mAh%20(White-Black)-Capacity.png)
Aw man, I also got trigger happy and have an SF10A on the mail... I should start waiting a few months before I get a recently released flashlight. Until 2018 lumintop tool AA (AAA on the mail xD)
Edited for many typos and missed words due to late night phone typing
Lol, “trigger happy” is a nice expression 
I’ll wait for a while to see if I go for this SP10B.
The SP10A and SF14 will arrive tomorrow, so I’ll check how they perform, compare them with the Tool AA and the other AA lights I have and discern if I should be “trigger happy” to get a SP10B.
Apart from the “click for ON” that k-wong mentioned, this light seems to be the more interesting AA/14500 light they launched so far. If they change that “click”, it will be better. If not, let’s see.
BTW, the SF10 will soon be changed, getting a nice driver and a different emitter! The host is awesome, but the driver… messes all up :person_facepalming:
I’m tempted by some of Sofirn’s lights, but those dishonestly labeled cells put me off. However, the cells HKJ tested don’t seem to be listed in Sofirn’s AliExpress store. Does anyone know what (if any) connection there is between the Sofirn flashlights and the mislabeled Sofirn AA and AAA cells?
As asked above, what’s the diff between the A and B?
I like the A quite a bit, so am curious about the B.
If I’m not mistaken, hardware is the same, but firmware changed to…
1) Reduce on/off press from .5 to .3 seconds.
2) Add moonlight mode (1 lumen) for a total of 4 light modes.
3) Two clicks to turbo .
4) Move strobe from two click to three click territory.
5) Four clicks to lock/unlock.
Personally, I think it would be better with three clicks to lock and four clicks for strobe. 
Looks like Sofirn is Taking suggestions to heart because I received a message regarding making firmware updates.
Ooh, nice!
Yup, they are indeed They changed the modes from their “first” AA lights (SF10, SF12) to the newest (SP10A and B, SF14), and they continue to improve.
k-wong gave valuable information here about the “click to ON” and yesterday I asked Cissy on AE store about that change, and she said they will make it, but it is yet to confirm when! She said she would send message to inform about that! I hope they make it!
Finally, a manufacturer, making budget but quite nice lights, “listens” to the costumers (even if those are flashaholics :smiling_imp: )!
Yup, I guess this is it
Ok, got a bit of an update regarding new drivers. As MascaratumB said, Sofirn agreed to update the drivers so it’ll be one click for ON instead of Hold 0.3 seconds for ON. Big improvement from my standpoint. :+1: I’m also hoping they will change it to always start on low and hold 0.3 seconds to go to last mode memory but that’s yet to be confirmed.
Unfortunately, they produced 2000 units of the SP10B drivers already, meaning they’ll need to sell through that before offering the new ones, so it might be after Christmas. It’ll be a while…
Ugh, that’s too bad about the delay in getting new firmware.
Personally, I’d be nearly as happy with no memory and always start on low. I might order a couple as they are now just because I like the mode spacing. I appreciated your review of the SP10A, btw.
Goood If all those things were like you said, that UI would get a “perfect” from me (well, on a non ramping firmware)!
Baaaad 
Well, I do understand their situation, it would be a waste of resources to throw the away, but…now I’m excited about the new UI and will have to wait longer :weary:
Anyway, those new lights from Sofirn are very nice. I’ve just reviewed the SP10A an SF14 and they are good lights, specially if we take in mind that they are “budget” lights and that they compete with “major” brands.
Thanks again for the info k-wong
I like the shorter turn on time but I feel this light will become too complicated to give as a gift light. Grandma will have no clue what i’m talking about when i try to explain all these special clicks. Starting on low sounds like a very bad idea. We have always liked last mode memory and now we have to do special clicks to find turbo? Why not make it with turbo that isn’t hidden. And now you want to throw in a .3 second hold for last mode memory? Sounds like we are on our way to ruining a good light and making it way too complicated for gifting. I’m ok with a 4 click lock out.