XM-L vs XP-L

why would cree xml be chosen over xpl?
appears xpl is better in price and equal or better in performance?
am i missing something?
better cooling for xml?
thanks

XML was released about 7 years ago or so? Then came XML2, and then XPL (couple of years ago). Now you also have XPL2. I only see XML in budget lights these days. XPL is much more efficient than XML, and I can only think of lower price for the XML why they are still being used.

Their efficiency is very close.

Really? I’ll be danged.

I might very be wrong or partially wrong.

When I looked things up my conclusion was:

a larger hot spot/floodier/lower driven amperage, the XML2 was on paper “better” (V8)

The

XPL2

more of a small spot/throwier/better performing if pushing hard, on paper “better” (V6 with a turbo)

mainly similure output but “feel” different

XM-L/2 looks better :slight_smile:

i love V8s, i don’t like V6s, but mainly due to sound.
if they both do the same work with no sound, would i know the difference?
how do XMLs look better? please explain to a novice.
thanks

And from what I hear, the XP-L line has horrible tint shifts.

XML2 has the same tint shift, XPL2 worse

Just a personal preference :smiley:

Does the tint shifts also apply to the XPL-HI? I have only one with XPL-HI (doesn’t shift that much, as far as I perceive) and another on the way, and I’m curious to know if they shift as much as the others!
Thanks in advance :+1:

An SMO reflector can mess up tint so much I guess the LED choice wouldn’t even matter that much in this aspect

XPL HI has very little tintshift

Is it due to be “dedomed”?

Haven’t noticed much with the XP-L HI but tried an XP-L2 in a reflector and hated it.

again, complete newb here, but i don’t understand cri, tint shift and so on.
for my project i only care about illumination to navigate. is cri. etc. something i should be concerned about? i’ve noticed on the flashlight forums, cri gets more attention than anything.
thanks

If illumination for navigation is the goal, neither tint shift or CRI is something to be concerned about. There is a discussion that neutral white is easier for the eyes than cool white light, but even that is a matter of preference.
So in your case just ignore the bunch of tint snobs around here (me being one of them :innocent: )

Depends what you’re navigating through, woods, rocky terrain, snow, outdoor uneven natural surfaces you would appreciate a high CRI neutral tint for better perception of depth etc. I’ve found myself in electrical cupboards on a few occasions with just a 6500K 1A tint feeling like I’m in some action movie unable to distinguish which wire is what colour :laughing:

Hah, same here :smiley:

Rule of thumb is: those yellow streetlights have very low CRI, so everything seems like the same yellow color. CFL lamps are cool white with mediocre CRI, so it bleaches everything pale but lets you tell your reds from your yellows and your blues from your greens. Daylight, on the other end of the comparison, is when you see the TRUE colors of whatever you’re looking at - it has the highest CRI in the scale.

Found myself in the same situation in telephone closets.
Wasn’t good at all distinguishing those pairs, being washed out and all. I had another light with better CRI and issue was resolved. Huge difference in this instance.