good all around trower

LED Flashlights ā€“ General Info 26650 Flashlights
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so body : L2

  • good heat dissipation
  • only clicky switch
  • good trower

LED :
XP-L Hi : good but less lumens
XHP35 : good size for trow / no donut hole / but 12V
XHP50 : average size for trow / can easy be driven hard with DD FET / but donut hole
XHP50.2 : average size for trow / no donut hole / but more difficult to drive CC in stead of DD

So it comes down to a good driver I guess.
I prefer decent current, 2s and ramping if posible

I cant find a 6v current controlled driver for the XHP50.2 that delivers good current and has decent UI.

A good driver for the XHP35 would be even better.

Did I miss something?

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I would like to try the xhp50.2 in my s70s using the stock driver, resistor modded or just bypassed. I got 9amps out of the stock driver on the xhp70.2.

I think xhp35 would throw very well, but no flood. Xhp50.2 seems perfect dome on or dedome?

I'm building an ultrafire u-f19 with fx-30 driver and xhp70 dedome for now but might try xhp50.2 for sure.

Maybe you could try s70s with modded driver and xhp50.2? Just unsure of how much current the 50.2 can handle tbh.

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The S70S and L6 donā€™t have enough trow.
A FX-30 driver from an L6 would do the job i think, but itā€™s 30 mm and controlled with a side switch.

this one , but it only goes to 4.5 A at 6v and costs 21$

this one can do 7A but wonā€™t fit the 20 mm L2

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Convoy L2 with XPL-HIā€¦ mtn has them in stock now. Read the description carefully, particularly the commentary about 26650 compatibility. At these current levels its pretty moderately driven, great constant-ON lighting.
Low (80mA) - Medium (900mA) - High (3000mA)
http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&product_id=652

If you donā€™t mind a zoom-focus light and some DIY. I have been using a UF-1504, and am happy with the results. Quality level is not at in the same league as the Convoy, but I have found it to be good enough for my needs. FWIW, I am absolutely not a fan of zoom lightsā€¦ but this is one that I can tolerate enough to recommend.

This driver configured how you want

This LED on 16mm copper

I agree with the others from what I have seen with mineā€¦ the Convoy L6 is not a thrower.

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It says the driver is 2s compatible, and itā€™s current regulated, so if I where to put in and XHP50.2 and use 2S, would my XHP50.2 be running at 3A ?
Would the higher lummen output outweigh the less focus in therm off trow?

Iā€™m looking again at the Emisar D1S, but I canā€™t find a good comparison with a C8.
It looks good but iā€™m afraid it will be only slightly better than an C8.
The UI would be perfect anyway.

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I have an L2 built with an XP-L HI V3 3B, currently my best thrower. Can light up a treeline 1000ft away when on max on a FET driver, a hand-shaved AR lens and good batteries getting over 1,600lumens.
I also have an L2 built with an MT-G2 with 5000k tint. Throws well and is a flood of a light too. Lights up a wide treeline easily 500ft+ away. Hitting at least 4,500lumens on max on a FET driver. What a wonderful CRI on this LED I got too.
Put an MT-G2 into a C8 as well on 2x 18350s on a zener mod driver. Even more of a flood. The L2 is the perfect balance of flood/throw with the MT-G2 IMO. An XHP70.2 would beat this in lumens, thatā€™s for sure. And the slightly smaller dome give a bit extra throw as well. Might have to be one of my future projects.

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What driver did you use for the MT-G2?

Iā€™m thinking of the FX6-5A and a XHP50.2 wich should get me +3000 lummen and still some better trow than your MT-G2.
Do you think I could make the 22mm fit?

Do all XHP50.2 3000K have 80+ cri? the MTN does, but shipping is too expensive to Europe.
Are the LEDs from kaidomain to be trusted?

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@Jetro

Here is a quote of Toykeeperā€™s review of the Emisar D1s, which i posted the link to earlier:

Comparison to other lights

These lights are somewhat unique, since they both out-throw almost everything in their size class.
ā€¢ The D1 is almost up to the performance of a BLF X6v2, except itā€™s as small as the BLF X5. Iā€™ll probably be leaving the X5 and X6 at home now and using a D1 instead.
_ā€¢ The D1S has been compared to a C8, but thatā€™s not quite right ā€” itā€™s significantly throwier than a C8. Itā€™s more like a modded old HD2010 if anyone remembers that. In terms of lux, the throw is slightly higher than the top-of-the-line ā€œthrow kingā€ from a few years ago, the Olight SR90 Intimidator. Except the D1S is a fraction of the size and a fraction of the price and has a nicer interface.

Here are a few pictures of the D1 and D1S next to some other lights, for size reference:

Emisar D4, D1, D1S, and D4 shorty.

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Has anyone ever put an XHP70.2 or 50.2 in a Manker U21? I think the U21 could handle the heat well and that great reflector should still have decent throw.

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I think a few have already noticed the spelling mistake in the title.

Obviously, it is not a trower that is sought:-

Urban Dictionary: Trower

A total loser who thinks he is very funny and tells stories that have no point. Trowers can be mentally retarded and big fat ass people. Trowers tend to live in a sheltered life alone and grows up to be hermit living in a cave.

SO I took the liberty of correcting to the most obvious word, and here is my submission as a good all round tower:-

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Jetro-trower/Jethro-thrower :innocent:

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Trower? :confounded:

a bellow average guitarist who really cannot sing. To trow away :smiley:

Here is the real deal :stuck_out_tongue:

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Wel, I did warn you about my language. But about what else would I be talking about on BLF :smiley:
So I ended up ordering a L2 with an XPL Hi (only a bit more expensive and i want to see what it does stock).
From KD I ordered a XHP50.2 5000K and the FX6-5A driver.

Iā€™m planning to run the XHP50.2 on the stock driver first, if it also runs at 3A, should give me good lummens already.

So for 26650, are the new LiitoKala 5000mAh 20A still good? or was that the previous batch?

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Both Blue and Black Liitokalas are good.
Get the ones that will cost you less :slight_smile:

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thx , 16ā‚¬ for 20000 mAh isnā€™t a bad price I guess :slight_smile:

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That would be amazing!

Itā€™s only 5000 mAh, it can take peak currents of 20 A.

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He probably meant to say that he got 20.000mAh (4 x 5.000) in total for 16E.

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True, but only if you use them in parallel :wink:

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The Convoy L2 and C8 are mentioned in this thread.

I noticed the L2 when it had the almost 50% discount sale in BG a few weeks back.

Thereā€™s the Convoy L2 with XP-L Hi, and thereā€™s the L2 with XM-L2.

With the bigger-sized reflector of the L2, obviously it will out-throw the C8 assuming the same XP-L Hi.

But what if the L2 is outfitted with just the XM-L2, compared to an Convoy C8 thatā€™s using XP-L Hi.

How would the throw of the 2 compare?

(Is there an estimated max throw distance in meters for the Convoy L2 with XP-L Hi and with XM-L2? The product specs donā€™t list them, so Iā€™m wondering if anyone has made some tests for the 2, and also comparing with the Convoy C8)

Actually, Iā€™m looking for these numbers:
max throw distance for (assuming the stock drivers, and the cool-white tints for closer comparison)
Convoy L2 with XP-L Hi = ??? meters
Convoy L2 with XM-L2 = ??? meters
Convoy C8 with XP-L Hi = ??? meters
Convoy C8 with XM-L2 = ??? meters

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A domed led like the xml will always be more floody, so at short range youā€™ll have more light but youā€™ll loose intensity at the long range and the xpl will outperform an xml for the long range (throw). No matter if its c8 or L2