For absolute small emitter output, the XP-L W2 2B in a Convoy C8 is pretty ridiculous at some 2024 lumens. This is single cell, single emitter.
The XP-L and XM-L2 use the same die, sitting on a different substrate, so they are very similar in output. There have been some small changes and as such the XP-L can sometimes take more current but that is not in and of itself always the best path to the most lumens.
Nice entertaining the possibilities of the XP-L2, acquiring the emitters is not as easy as all that at this time.
There is a phenomenon where de-doming an XM-L2 (or any Cree for that matter) causes a loss of lumens and a warming of the tint. The XP-L HI is, more or less, factory de-domed. The HI has lower output than it’s equivalent HD brother, so this being a given then yes, the XM-L2 is typically brighter than an XP-L. There are changes to the XP-L line-up that are causing it to catch up though, like the XP-L W2 or the XP-L2 maybe they’re calling it. I’ve seen this emitter make over 2000 lumens, where the most I’ve seen from an XM-L2 is 1811.
Variance abounds. The best emitters can be (read usually are) difficult to obtain.
Thanks Dale I wasn’t aware of a xpl 2 yet , but could probably wrong. I think a and I better double check but in manker u21 that Tom E saved for may have a xpl2 but don’t quote me yet on it i have to go through piles of pms either that is grateful info and iam happy with my new edc Tom built for me my manker with a 1000 meter reach pmeantu of usable spill I’ll be happy for quite a while.
Just came across this early 2017 thread… and yes it seems to me the D4 is the brightest stock single 18650 light around - be it for a few seconds. The XPL version does 4k+ i think.
I re-measured my D4 with Luxeon V’s yesterday and got 5200 at start, 4850 at 12 seconds when thermal stepdown starts (on a 30Q), and my djozz-lumen even is conservative compared to the lumens on the other side of the pond.
Insane. That’s a BLF Q8, but a tenth the size. No wonder it can only last a few seconds.
What’s the brightness single-LED 1x18650 light? There’s plenty around 1400 lumens (stock), using a FET driver with a boring XPL. Any that use a better LED for more output (probably needing a boost like the XHP35)?
For me its a X6( X6R even better, but the mod to sst40 and keeping its usb charging is quite a hard one)/SSt40 modded, tonsa lumens, tonsa throw, quite pocketable too: C8 has a better( 60%) throw , yet it aint that pocketable