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fneuf wrote:

Seem to be close to the 27mm diameter side though.


I’ve forgotten what the diameter limit was on the L6. 26.8mm doesn’t sound like an issue, though.

Wow, they show to have protected 18650 cells with a 15A ability.

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IMO KP 6000mA = Shockli IMR26650 .

Shockli IMR26650 5500mAh (Black) 2017

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Shockli%20IMR26650%205500mAh%2...

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Saw the 15A protected. Kinda wonder on that if its just a burst delay or full current before protection. Full 15A sorta defeats the purpose of a protection circuit. I don’t know.

Just measured the tube of my recent L6, 26.85mm at both ends. Would definitely need to be smaller than that.

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Pok wrote:
IMO KP 6000mA = Shockli IMR26650 .

“Shockli IMR26650 5500mAh (Black) 2017”:http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Shockli%20IMR26650%205500mAh%2...


The link doesn’t work.

Are you referring to that reddit post where they suspected the KP 6000 as being the same as the Shockli 5500?

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vwpieces wrote:
Full 15A sorta defeats the purpose of a protection circuit. I don’t know.

Not really. The protection circuit protects against 5 things:

1. Over voltage
2. Under voltage
3. Over temperature
4. Short circuit
5. Over discharge

Most people only get protected cells for the first few reasons. The discharge limit is sometimes an aggravation that’s it too low. It prevents people who want a protected cell from being able to use a high current light. Like the Emissar D4 at 11 to 12 amps for example. With this battery they can get the 4 other safety features and still have turbo. It sounds good to me. Thumbs Up

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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vwpieces wrote:

Just measured the tube of my recent L6, 26.85mm at both ends. Would definitely need to be smaller than that.

I measured mine on both ends and got 26.99mm. It’s an earlier version, though.

I remember reading that some of the newer batches of L6 battery tubes were a bit smaller in diameter than normal. I wonder if you have one of those?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

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I had a clear L6 I modded and sold, and the batteries I still have fit tighter in my new Black L6. Black litto need the tube off and pushed through to get out. Not tight enough to hurt the battery at all, but the air can’t pass to allow them to fall out even with a bump. I can see just the addition of the metal strip up the side of a protected cell making them too tight. My black Keeps are just slightly looser.

Didn;t know the tubes got smaller, I initially just thought it was the difference in the black compared to clear anno thickness at first. But I did notice the difference.
Maybe that is why the L6 has had good coupon deals lately for $45? I just bought another black NW this morning.

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It was around April of this year that certain batteries seemed to grow in diameter and the L6 tube got a tiny bit smaller. So people started measuring. Some were tubes were 26.79mm and some were 27.12mm. A lot of variations.

I think about here or the page before is a good starting point if you want to read about it.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/43503?page=133

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Pok wrote:
IMO KP 6000mA = Shockli IMR26650

Do you imply that KP protected the Shockli cell, hence the 4mm length difference? And by the way are Shockli rebranding cell from a big name or are they doing their own stuff?

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fneuf wrote:

Thanks for all those remarks guys. As I intend to offer it as a gift, I’ll stick on the most secure solution.


 


stephenk wrote:
Convoy recommend the 69.5mm protected Keeppower (which as far as I’m aware is actually INR, not ICR as commonly thought).

Do you have any source stating that? Their own site is not sufficiently detailed. A “new” 6000mAh option is also listed there.


I have seen a source, but don’t have it at hand. ICRs are old tech now.
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The L6 is at $46 in this coupons & deals thread:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57247

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vwpieces wrote:

Maybe that is why the L6 has had good coupon deals lately for $45? I just bought another black NW this morning.

Nah, it’s just the holiday season. There’s tons of sales going on.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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patmurris wrote:
The L6 is at $46 in this coupons & deals thread: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57247[/quote]

 

It should, unfortunately it seems inactivated by now. That's why I used the "FinGB" one.

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wow that 6000mah cell KP looks interesting its gonna cost alot i bet just 1 battery, i hope Nkon will bring that in.. they never seem to even have the other 5200mah battery in stock Sad i hope my L6 arrives soon im anxious to get this badboy before holidays hopefully unless shipping screws up…

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There it is again: L6 for $45 in this thread:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/52547

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My l6 came today from gearbest after almost 1 month of travel. Its an amazing flashlight it feels so well built for the price its crazy nothing remote what i can think of comes close. I am using the efest 4200mah batteries they work perfect u can see on the pic there is some space left i was worried they wouldnt fit maybe but they do. Happy to own a few lights from convoy and now the l6 in hand Big Smile

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You will run into problems if you use protected cells that are longer than 70mm. You’re way safe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

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I posted this on the mod thread but here’s what I did to my L6 last night.

Driver is from MTN with D4 ramping. Got the led from KD.

Getting just over 15A from the tail with the new setup vs 7A with the old led with resistor mod.


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Make sure the reflector is screwed down snugly so you get good heat transfer from the mcpcb to the body. If not the led output could shift to blue very quickly and burn up.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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L6 uses screws to hold down the mcpcb

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giorgoskok wrote:
L6 uses screws to hold down the mcpcb

No it doesnt. It has either one or 2 screws to prevent rotation. The reflector is what pushes it down.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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I thought all of them had 2 screws like mine … Interesting . Bought mine from BG

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JasonWW wrote:
giorgoskok wrote:
L6 uses screws to hold down the mcpcb
No it doesnt. It has either one or 2 screws to prevent rotation. The reflector is what pushes it down.

Yup that’s right. The screws is just to prevent rotation.

Amazing output with the 70.2! Quite happy with the tint as well.

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Hi anybody have a good protected battery sugestion for the L6? Keppower sems to be inpossible to get today.

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Micael wrote:
Hi anybody have a good protected battery sugestion for the L6? Keppower sems to be inpossible to get today.

Have you tried https://www.illumn.com/

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Micael wrote:
Hi anybody have a good protected battery sugestion for the L6? Keppower sems to be inpossible to get today.

Have you tried “https://www.illumn.com/”:https://www.illumn.com/


They are out of stock there.

There definitely seems to be a shortage of protected 26650 cells right now.

I’m wondering if KeepPowers 5200 is being replaced by their new 6000 model? Can you buy them directly from Keeppower?
http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=571

Have you considered this one?
https://www.orbtronic.com/protected-26650-li-ion-battery-5200mah-orbtronic

Mtn Electronic has some protected Evva 5200 cells, but they a bit long. You can make the longer cells work by unscrewing the battery tube from the head a couple of turns. I did this when I ran the long KeepPower cells.
http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_108

Are you in Sweden? I don’t think MtnE ships overseas anymore.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Thanks for the help but not in stock. Yes I’m in Sweden that dont help Smile

I found thes at Nkon Enerpower 26650 4800mAh (protected) – 12A.

Thanks for the help.

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JasonWW wrote:

There definitely seems to be a shortage of protected 26650 cells right now.

I’m wondering if KeepPowers 5200 is being replaced by their new 6000 model?

I just checked the Chinese website and see they have them listed! I’d like to get a few Big Smile

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but would the KP 6000 even fit l6, i asume they are the same as the 5200 dimensions? i agree its hard to even find the kp 5200, i have been checking nkon from time to time no luck, just says out of stock all the time Sad not even a date or anything when to expect them there…

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found a shop in finland from KP distributors link,, the new KP 6000 but damn 25euro for 1 piece Sad too expensive….

https://www.akkula.fi/epages/akkula.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/20110228...

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