Did I get ripped off by a BLF'er?

Troop, looking at the thread you linked to, the seller was on BLF 5 hours, 6 minutes ago, so he's around (but before your post). Have you PM'd him? Send him a link to this thread, I would think he would want it cleared up.

Yeah, he hasn't posted since Jan 15th.

When it comes to "accepting" getting ripped off, it's all about time and aggravation. I'd put more effort into it if it was $100, hey, I could buy another TK41 with that.

Besides, I always believe that karma will have a way of evening things out.

I received a PM, requesting sale of the DRY spacers two day ago.

I hope he follows through. I'd be PO'd if I send payment and they don't ship within 1-2 business days.

he has time to post but not ship your item

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send a message and email again no answer by tomorrow pull it. although his posts look real, a bit too REAL hmmm

Karma's funny like that. You always have the PayPal dispute option.

I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt, but wanted to post in case there were similar issues with other people here.

Boy I hope not. He pm'd me once. Seem like a nice guy. But I hope he is legit. I can't stand being ripped off. It sucks. And I don't take it lightly or any of my buddies being ripped off as well.

Come on Reflection. Do the right thing here.

It's the principle of the thing to me. Money amount isn't what is important it is about being a thief. I don't know what I hate worse a thief or a liar. Hopefully he will come through but it sure seems unlikely.

Maybe it's just laziness and failure to follow thru on things.

I have a guy at work like that, 23 years old and was a spoiled child.

He has no self motivation or internal work ethics.

Really too bad to hear, hope you get it soon.

The thing is I agree with Steve, that "I work 6 days a week" thing doesnt mean anything.

Once you take someones money you should send right away (that day), make the time before or after work - or tell the person in advance I cant take your money until I can ship on this date XX.

Who knows...at least with PP you have some recourse.

Just can't find the PayPal clause at the moment but if the sellers account contains no funds, you can win all the disputes you want and you will not receive a refund.

PayPal doesn't care about you and will only refund if the seller has money in his account, they're not going to reach into their billions to help you out.

I've been ripped of by unscrupulous sellers in the past.

Not to say the seller in question falls into this catorgry.

+ 1

but...

I have received $ from people when I knew I would be out of town until Xxx date, and that said item will ship as soon as I get back. As a buyer I try to get a contact # if I come across the same thing, just for piece of mind. I really hope this gets worked out between you guys, and also that nothing bad has happened to the seller.

Yes of course, communication is always the best and can solve almost any issue.

Its when you dont hear from the other guy your mind starts to think the worst.

This is just my personal opinion, but I'd file a dispute right away. IMHO it's not ok to let someone rip you off because the dollar amount is trivial to you--that might perpetuate the idea that this sort of behavior will be tolerated.

Again, it's your money and I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but as far as the hobby is concerned I think it's best to not let this kind of thing go without recourse.

Your part of the KARMA now! PM reference to this thread—no contact—PayPal dispute. Think of your action as protection for the next guy.

That would probably enlight his reflection.

File a civilian pursuit case if anything.

The time needed to do that and the amount of carelessnes is stinky at best.

Hopefully this gets resolved. Give him the benefit of the doubt for now like you said but if still nothing -- release the Kraken! I mean file a paypal dispute.

Holy Shit. I was just signing in to post a thread about the exact same thing! I was supposed to get two of those Balder SE-1's by trading him my TR-1200 w/ DX XML Drop-in (and TWO 18650 flames) and an Ultraok 18650 Zoomie.

Details.

1/11 First contact via text NUMBER 918-575-5109

He agreed to trade me his lights for mine straight up, we both pay our own shipping.

HIS SHIPPING ADDRESS

Jonathon Hatfield

710 West Taft Street

Westville, OK 74965

1/12 I sent the package to the above address USPS.

1/16 I checked up on him, asking if my light arrived to him alright and how he liked them, he replied and said his lights were sent out this day USPS

1/17 He received my lights and had the nuts to send me a text message complaining about the order of brightness and mode memory on the DX XML drop in for the TR-1200. HAHA

1/30 I returned home from a 10 day business trip and I had some packages in from the great land of China but none from Reflection. I sent him a stern and concerned text, while keeping my cool and asking what the deal was. I requested he called me. I called him, and left a voicemail.

1/31 I called again and left a voicemail

2/2 Another Text and call

2/3 I sent another text, still not totally blowing up. I told him I was traveling from Memphis to OKC, driving within an hour or so from his house. I told him I was going to stop by and grab my lights.

From my dealings with him, he was very nice and knows flashlights, asking all the right questions. Surely he ran into some type of emergency that left him without communication, or was severely injured in a car accident of some sort, not just screwing over everyone in sight for the hell of it . Yea right, he's on BLF avoiding everyone!

I had probably $110 in all that stuff I sent him from buying it all new, but I didn't want any of it, that's why I wanted it gone. I could not care less about the value of the crap, I would have given it away to anyone in the hobby that deserved it, but getting F@#$%# out of it over the internet from a fellow BLF'er??? Come on.

Oh no. This is not looking good. I don't care how busy a person is. If you say you will do something (like post a flashlight) do it. No excuses!