Living a lithium hell

Batteries and Chargers Rechargeable Batteries
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I was checking on AliExpress and some stores seem to have “free shipping” or small fees for Brasil and Canada! Lots of the others others are really expensive, I’m sorry for you situation and all the other members that are not able to buy they or at least with small shipping fees :person_facepalming:
I hope this helps on searching :wink:

BRASIL:

- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1359905?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.7a4af25aNdF8Un

- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/334042?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.7c9add08rQTCkj

- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3216007?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.2eb6b28bK1hBmd

- https://sunway.aliexpress.com/store/3173029?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.7338d402TkW3zx

- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1969247?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.1eece3adiZees6

- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3213027?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.2afeb6a3wLyRsP

- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2611035?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.5daef00anMjTOy
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CANADA:

- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3213027?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.2eb0b905Hr4N0c

- https://sunway.aliexpress.com/store/3173029?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.1d9acd1bh7yweq

EDIT: I just noticed that not all of the batteries from these stores can be shipped. In my search, the ones that appeared the most were Samsung 30Q and Sony VTC6 unprotected. If you go to search on these stores, search for those in particular. Now I understand your pain :person_facepalming:

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Okay, I see that some can ship to Canada. ~ $10 US shipping, which is cheaper than from the US.

I had my credit card hacked the only time I used it on Ali, so I’m a little hesitant to buy from there now. Too bad they didn’t accept PayPal.

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Yeah, some are cheaper! But most of the stores takes more than 48€ (maybe USD $50 ?) to ship them.
Hum, can you use any “program” to create a virtual credit/debit card from your account?
I’m using one of those apps/services after my bank stopped allowing direct payment for online shopping. In other stores (BG or GB) I use PayPal, but on AliExpress I use those “1 time use ” cards.

Some time ago SB created this thread, maybe it can help you: Experiences with virtual / prepaid credit cards?!

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Soooo

  1. open a special import export company for Li-on cells ? (an opportunity?)
  2. buy power banks with good cells I buy the Innogie 13400 to get 3350 cells (btw I have two that’s 4 cells each if someone wants them) PM me
  3. it seems some are available but due to laws or insurance the shipping to some paces just costs more (remember we don’t live in a perfect world)
  4. start an educational movement to change the laws in your country (or become a lobbyist for the companies who will pay for such lobbyist)
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I have made battery purchases 3 times, each shipped from a different Aliexpress seller because they usually change shipping methods frequently. Most can ship to Brasil when Turkish post is available as an option, but it comes and goes. The last purchase is running very late and I’m afraid it will not arrive at all, so that is always a risk with these purchases. The best seller I had was the official official liitokala AE store (the one marked as top brand), I should have ordered a lot more at the time, it arrives fast and easy, shipping and product weren’t expensive, but they will only very rarely have turkish post available, if you miss the windows, you’ll have to start your research all over again

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The problem with Aliexpress is the same as with ebay: the few sellers available to me are charging between 50 and 70 USD for shipping!

Except for this one (yes, only one!), which I have not tried yet:

Anyway, it is really annoying being excluded from the cheap battery party that goes on the “Commercial Sellers’ Spot” on this forum.

Edit: MascaratumB, I have just checked your links, and besides the one I listed above, there are 2 or 3 more that seem reliable and might be useful. Thanks.

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Thanks, but none (!!!) of them ship to my country.

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I just hope you can get them buddy :wink: As Persechini said, some have the Turkish post, while others have other shipping methods!
Before purchasing , take a look at the reviews to see what sellers say! The batteries seem legit, but it’s better to double check :wink:
Anyway, to get them without fee or at low cost is better than nothing I guess :wink:
Good luck with that :+1:

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Brasil can be selected but… “Your order cannot be completed at this time as there are no shipping methods available for it.”
(I am really getting used to it!)

Thanks anyway.

Edit:
Persechini and Mascaratum,
I am just beginning to realize that AliExpress combined with Turkey Post might indeed be the only solution for now.

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Glad to know that! :sunglasses:
Maybe this can also work for other countries that have battery shipping problems :wink:

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My suggestion is, once you find a reliable vendor that ships via turkey post ($4~$9) buy a few extra cells, in case you are planing to grow your collection. Liitokala have very good 3500mAh batteries (either based on the sanyo GA or samsung 35E, can't get a confirmation from them), the Lii-35A. I got 4 when the official liitokala store was shipping to Brazil for a while, regret not having bought more. My last batch was a bit more expensive, both the cells and shipping. But you might get lucky.

Here are the links of AE stores I have ordered cells before, bare in mind that most don't ship here anymore:

MAN BUY Store (sells Nitecore products, cheap shipping, VERY expensive batteries)
manbuystore.aliexpress.com/store/1934124

China Electronic Store (ordered one cell, never arrived, got refunded, should've know better)

aliexpress.com/store/513871


Best Power (sells keeppower and nitecore batteries, somewhat expensive)

aliexpress.com/store/918105


Liitokala (oficial liitokala, most of the time does not ship batteries to Brazil, but I managed to buy 6 cells here once, fairly priced, but shipping is unavailable most of the time)

liitokalahongkong.aliexpress.com/store/217753


BlueSeni Store (I'm waiting 6 cells from this seller, but does have shipping to Brazil anymore…)

13760394452.aliexpress.com/store/3113003


Lucky Electronics Store (also waiting for more cells, also stopped shipping to Brazil since I made my purchase)

aliexpress.com/store/1191644

I'm also thinking of buying a couple of cells from RTD Vapor, who said could ship to Brazil, just not via their e-commerce

As you see, most of them are one-shot, I've bought cells where I found opportunity. Unfortunately, I know of no better or sure method for doing so. Oddly, I can find and order 20000mAh+ battery packs with ease...

Another option is to salvage used notebook batteries, you might get lucky with cell quality/capacity if it's not too old

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Ridiculous.

Airplanes are inherently dangerous: Way up in the air where a fall will kill, there isn’t enough oxygen to support consciousness and extremities will quickly freeze, in a vehicle that has to be as light as possible, filled with fuel, traveling at a sufficient fraction of the speed of sound.

That air travel and air freight are safe and routine in practice is only the case because of more than a century of putting safety first (yes, there are notable lapses). It’s a huge accomplishment, not something to trivialize and scoff at.

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Same for here in Canada. most every overseas seller no no longer will ship LiIon cells of any type to here, and even lately in some cases when they scan packages at the customs its either confiscated or sent back… I have been unable to buy Lithium Ion cells from anywhere online. ( I ordered from one US seller & they shipped them, but got sent back by our customs… All the local vape-shops are price gouging now because of that, (High-drain cells like 25R, 30Q, HE2, HE4s, etc. cost nearly 20 bucks EACH here in Canada at the stores… :frowning:

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JudgeDredd, take a look here: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3110015

I thought you may be able to bear with the shipping quotes I see for Brazil in that store if you look in their sales section and buy a nice lot (like 12 pieces).

Quite recently I ordered an VTC5A six-pack for less than 21€/25$. And, as usual, please don't believe in those optimistic ratings.

Cheers ^:)

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Does Lumintop’s AliExpress store work for you? Battery - Shop Cheap Battery from China Battery Suppliers at LUMINTOP Official Store on Aliexpress.com

Nobody ships batteries to Vietnam either (not without me coughing up $50/order). I’ve got from this store quite a few batteries of all sizes for cheap with Free shipping (especially cheaper with AE coupon during 11.11 and around May)

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Persechini,
Thanks, but most of them are not shipping to us at the moment, or are just too expensive. As you said before, it comes and goes.

Barkuti,
Thank you, that might work. But, as you said, shipping will only make sense if ordering a lot, at least 8 or 12.

LG,
Thanks, but they aren’t shipping to me.

So far, the best solution I found is the “Sunway Store” on Aliexpress: free shipping (with tracking) via Turkey Post, and they have 18650 Sony’s and Samsung’s and 26650 Liitokala’s. I hope this might be useful for someone else.

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Thanks for the links. Same problem here. I’ll give them a try.

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Yes, thank you! They ship to Canada, too. I was hoping to find some Panasonic GA’s, but perhaps I should snap up some more Samsung 30Q’s while I can.

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In my experience, it’s more like a case-to-case basis. I’ve talked to some people who are in the freight business. Some shippers have more relaxed restrictions and according to them, lithium batteries can be shipped provided they are separated or packed individually, meaning the batteries must not be in their usual 2-pack, 4-pack, 8-pack plastic containers. Of course, shipping in commercial quantities is normally prohibited, depending on the laws of both the country of origin and country of destination.

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Could always find cheap OEM tool packs or laptop packs and pull the cells. They dont usually have the best of the best in them, but I found typically OEM packs have decent cells. If you look around, you can typically find a pack with 6-8 cells for $20.

Also does not hurt to try to find tool packs or laptop packs that have been discarded. They will typically only have one or two bad cells, and can find them for free