[Review] ThorFire TK05 1xAA/14500 eSwitch

I checked out Sofirnā€™s current line-up and didnā€™t see anything that I felt would use this driver. Thought itā€™s entirely possible that they will in the near future. To be fair to ThorFire, I donā€™t want to get to far into that discussion. Iā€™m sure theyā€™re separate companies, though they do have some portfolio overlap and occasional mis-branding of products. To me, that sounds like problems at the ODM, not necessarily the two companies that are marketing and selling us the lights. Iā€™m no expert in their processes, though, so Iā€™m not fit to speculate too far.

Just curious, whatā€™s the e-switch mounting like? Is the driver a dual board with the e-switch mounted on the second one? Looking at modability - thanks!

Well Sofirn has every products Thorfire sells, with a different driver of course. Also just a few weeks ago Jaxman was whining about Thorfire copying their design in E3 thread if I believe correctly.

Iā€™m hoping to do the LED swap within the next week. While Iā€™ve got things taken apart for that, Iā€™ll try popping the driver out and getting some pics.

Thank you for the review, I am a ThorFire fan and always had very positive experiences with their products. Since I canā€™t find a convoy AA yet I might want to pick this one up. e-switch is even better than expected.

First of all, nice review gchart :wink: Thanks for showing this Thorfire, never knew about it and it seems a very nice flashlight :wink:

I will not feed this discussion further, maybe Iā€™ll try to clarify it for myself and other members, as well!
So, about what you said, I guess you are right, in some way.

The ā€œin some wayā€ part is due to the older version of the SP10A, that had a 3 modes + strobe driver (on 14500: 10lm > 89lm > 500lm). Different mode spacing and different rating lumens, for sure.

Currently, the SP10A version has 3 modes + High + strobe (on 14500: 2lm > 60lm > 224lm + 573 lm + strobe) & lockout .
The SP10A, in the new version, seems to be replacing the black SP10B, once the SP10B is now being sold in blue and red only (a AliExpress store).

So, what you say is right, there is no flashlight with that configuration from Sofirn, currently. But there was, before! :wink:
Also, the mode spacing of the Thofire is somehow similar to the Sofirn SF14 (5lm > 110lm > 600lm), but I guess this wonā€™t be relevant as this is a tailclicky :wink:

Also, the LED tint apparently is very different among any of these models, once the Thorfire seems to be more ā€œblueishā€ as you said, and the Sofirnā€™s have a more Neutral White tint, with some ā€œyellowishā€ shifts here and there :wink:

Once again, thank you for this review :+1:

One thing I noticed on your review:

Is this because of the driverā€™s shape? Or due to the interior distance between tailcap spring and driver?
Iā€™m just asking because - again - on the Sofirn lights, unprotected button top (of their brand, that are smaller than Sanyo UR14500P) and unprotected flat top Sanyo UR14500P fit nicely and work without rattling! On the contrary, due to the battery tube inner diameter, it may be hard to fit protected batteries, as they are thickerā€¦

I was just curious about this! Sorry to post 2 times in a row :zipper_mouth_face:

The Sanyo UR14500P is the unprotected cell that I tried (my only unprotected 14500 that I have on hand). There didnā€™t seem to be any rattling, so I figured it wasnā€™t a length issue. While the driver side is a button, the tailcap has a pretty long spring that should accomodate a lot of cell sizes. I didnā€™t have any problems with the diameter of my protected Wuben-branded 14500 - it has room to spare.

Hum, maybe the button on the driver is more recessed, then! Or maybe there is no connection between the ā€œsafeā€ ring and the button!
Thanks for clarifying :wink:

Hereā€™s a closer picture of that. Iā€™d guess the button is recessed 1mm or so. I donā€™t have a DMM with me to measure continuity.


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Thanks for the pic gchart! It is recessed, indeed, but not more than the drivers of the flashlights I mentioned. Strange that the flat tops donā€™t work on that and work on mine :expressionless:
I was seeing my drivers and perceived that at least the Sanyo UR14500P flat top fits that ā€œringā€ perfectly so it probably makes contact with the button. Others with the button top just make contact with the driverā€™s button, not the ring.

Thanks again and sorry for bothering with these questions :person_facepalming:

Hmm, I might have to double check. I do recall a slight indentation on the top of my Sanyo (likely caused by too much pressure from the Mi7 that itā€™s usually in). Perhaps thats enough to prevent it from making contact.

Ok, the modding post has been updated with the LED swap and driver info.

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Also, I did an output/runtime graph with the original XP-G3 LED, the new LH351D, and the Klarus Mi7 for comparison. I just started using my light meter & tube, so I wonā€™t claim to be accurate on lumen measurements, but the relative values should be fairly accurate. Some observations:

  • Out of the box, the TK05 seems to underperform, at least when compared to the Mi7. I suspect the 600 lumen claim is a bit elevated.
  • The TK05 runs in turbo for 3 minutes followed by a ~75% decrease whereas the Mi7 is considerably less conservative.
  • Due to the above, the Mi7 gets and stays hot while the TK05 does not.
  • Swapping the XP-G3 for a 5000K LH351D results in MUCH better tint. I hated the tint, but really like it now.
  • The LED swap also brought along a lot more lumens. About 50% more in turbo and 30% more in post-turbo stepdown.
  • Runtime is approximately the same before & after the LED swap.
  • Turbo on the TK05 with the LH351D nudges out turbo on the Mi7.
  • Big side note: the TK05 was tested with a Wuben-wrapped 600mah 14500. The Mi7 was using an Sanyo 800mah 14500. I want to see if I can get the TK05 to work with the Sanyo cell and retest it.

Now onto the graphā€¦ time scale is in minutes. Brightness scale is a a percentage based on the original TK05 brightness in turbo.

So, a sofirn driver in a thorfire host confirms we can refer to them as one company?

Iā€™d say no, but Iā€™d say it confirms they share a manufacturer/supplier.

The same manufacturer was given, since their line-up is almost identical, modes, switches. They being the same company I think is likely

+1!

BTW, Iā€™ve seen Thorfire flashlights for a while before seeing Sofirn. BUT, indeed, they probably share some parts / suppliers!

And I donā€™t have any Thorfire, but Iā€™ve read and seen some reviews - gchartā€™s included - and they really have pretty nice lights :blush:

Thanks for clarifying the timed drop on the TK05 and comparison with the Mi7.

Modded my TK05 last weekend.

  • Replaced the driver with a 17mm e-switch driver with D4 UI from Mountain Electronics
  • Replaced stock aluminum star with 16mm Copper Noctigon (filed down to 15mm so it would fit)
  • Replaced cool white XPG3 with 4000K XPL HI 5A2
  • Replaced stock momentary pushbutton with Radioshack 2.5 mm momentary tact switch.
  • Added aluminum ring around outside of metal button to greatly reduce chances of accidental activation during pocket EDC.

Overall a fairly straightforward mod with no serious issues.

The internals of the light look virtually identical to the Sofirn SP10A and 10B. The driver looks the same right down what appears to be identical layout of components. The inside of the switch button looks the same. I think the star and reflector are probably the same too. Only differences appear to be the external body design.

I wouldnā€™t be surprised if both Sofirn and Thorfire use the same factory.

Sounds like some good mods! LED replacement is a must, I feel like. I hesitate on the driver because I really like the option of throwing a AA in there if I need to. Iā€™m not familiar with the momentary tact switch - whatā€™s with that?