ALL THINGS BUDGET KNIVES

I wish I could add a comment there but there’s no button or field or anything to do that.

Anyways, the Hungarian folder is not a Szankovits, (pronounce in english words like sun-co-witch), but a fejesgörbe (now this is impossible in english), which means fejes - has a head, the part around the pivot, görbe, it’s curved. Szankovits is one maker, there’s 4-5 other companies that still make such knives till today.
Too bad these traditional knives are usually only available in their countries of origin and they are quite expensive compared to our beloved Made in PRC knives…

Interesting article. Of course in my country the spanish navaja. If course classics like opinel, mora, victorinox…
Really navaja is a folder knife not a brand like opinel etc. Navaja is a knife style, not a brand.

The Belarusian Navaja is almost identical to one of the most Iconic South African knives, the Okapi.

nice!

Sweeping Canadian Law Bans Many Folding Knives

https://gearjunkie.com/canada-knife-law-prohibited-folding-weapons?utm_source=GearJunkie+Weekly+Newsletter&utm_campaign=76936f07a4-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4761d8db2c-76936f07a4-23177969

John.

Yep, the future of knife enthusiasts in Canada is looking pretty dark…
Last year, CBSA revised their memorandum to include flipper knives to their list of prohibited weapons, but get that, only the good flippers that can actually flip, crappy flippers that didn’t open all the way are OK. This year, they extended their reach to pretty much any decent knife that can be flipped open by any mean. I guess we’re left with slip joints and lock backs :blush:

Just to make things clear that were wrongly written in the article, it is NOT the Canadian law that changed. This law has been the same for decades and is actually quite simple and short. Knives prohibited in Canada by the Canadian Criminal code are basically balisongs, switchblades or OTFs and push daggers, pretty short list.
What ACTUALLY changed is CBSA (Canada Customs) interpretation of the law to include whatever they want.

Here’s a couple of good videos about this from fellow Canadian Youtubers:

CBSA consistently changes their Memorandum (CBSA-only interpretation of the law) as they see fit and unfortunately for us Canadians knife-nuts, not many Canadians give a sh*t.
For example, last year, CBSA seized a couple of Ganzos from me under being centrifugal. To be clear, the centrifugal law was created to ban balisongs, not axis-lock folders.
They also seized a TwoSun TS-40 under being …… wait for it …. an automatic knife! yes that’s right, and that was last year when they were mostly targeting flippers. Now, with this new change, any knife that you can open one-handed into locking position with or without a “flick of the wrist” as they call it, can be denied entry to the country. It doesn’t mean it’s illegal as you are able to purchase the exact same knife here at regular stores (at premium Canadian prices) and no cop will ever tell you that this knife is illegal.

And just to emphasize how stupid CBSA are, a tiny Sanrenu 7010 or 7076 (https://www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-and-folding-knives/pp_202407.html) will be denied entry to the country while a Ganzo G803 (https://www.gearbest.com/fixed-blades-knives/pp_825180.html) will enter just fine :blush:

Since last year, I have had all my flipper purchases shipped to a family member in the US that I visit twice a year but I was shipping thumb stud deployment still to Canada.
A couple of weeks ago, I bought a spyderco Techno clone from Fasttech and a Loscha clone from AE as I was pretty confident that they would go through without issues. Now with these changes, if the packages get inspected, I won’t be getting the knives, sucks to be me.

I would contact the seller and have the pivot screw tightened to the max. Most flippers have a strong detent so is not an issue.

Actually, the strong detente IS the issue when they seize the knives under being “automatic”.
If the CBSA officer exercise the flipper tab, or now since 2 weeks ago, the thumb stud and the blade opens all the way into locking position, they seize the knife under being automatic (that’s what happened to my TwoSun TS-40).
About tightening the pivot, I haven’t tried but I have read reports of some knives still being seized like this by CBSA under the lines of “the pivot has been intentionally tempered with so the blade doesn’t open in order to disguise what would otherwise be a prohibited weapon”, although I would think that those would be a few isolated cases and most could go through, idk.
Edit: also, on most budget knives from China, most sellers wouldn’t even bother to touch the pivot and strip the “not-so-good-quality screws”.
On the other end, on a good quality ball bearing knife, there is just so much you can tighten the pivot, and most will still deploy up to the locking position using a combination of flipper/thumb stud + “flick of the wrist”.
In the end, I believe that CBSA will seize pretty much every knife they want if they want to.
Does it mean that every knife will be seized, no as they don’t inspect every package.
Do I believe that they will seize most of the knives that they will inspect, yes.

You don’t want a knife on ball bearing to be tightened to much. The balls would leave dents in the washers or the titanium if it comes without steel washers.

How about shipping the knives disasembled as knife kits?
There’s a switchblade seller who ships their automatics as kits with all the parts except of the spring which comes in a seperate package.

Most knife collectors would disassemble their knives anyways, at least for cleaning or even for modding, so that should be no problem for most of the people.

Two fixed blade arrive today :smiley: . I thought i have lost them.

Of course, anything is possible, it has been proven throughout history that no matter what is prohibited, there is always a way to get it.
But the point is that it shouldn’t be the case, especially since this is NOT the law, but only decisions and rules made by a bunch of bureaucrats in a room that have no authority to make these decisions. Their job is to prevent illegal or dangerous goods to enter the country as described by the Canadian law, not to modify what is written in the law to block whatever they want, only elected people can do that, which they are not.

Sounds like a good idea to me :slight_smile:

I bought an Buck 679 clone from AE, And it was described on the customs declaration as a Screwdriver, A label had been stuck on the parcel saying that it did not meet EU regulations but i was still delivered unopened.

It was shipped from China to the UK.

John.

This happens when the people who make laws have to much time on their hands. I dont know if there has been some research why they ban these dangerous products but i think most people get stabbed by kitchen type knives…

Nice but at these prices, they could have at least upgraded to 14C28N like they use on their Real Steel or use D2 or something.
At least the 7010 got upgraded a bit but still, quite expensive for what it is.
Hopefully, places like Gearbest or Fasttech would get them at a much more reasonable price but I wouldn’t hold my breath, this might be an exclusive to them, just like the previous 910 exclusive they have.
https://messerundco.de/Sanrenmu-Land-910-Plus-Exclusive-Taschenmesser-Silber-12C27-Frame-Lock

I’m pretty impressed by the Sandvik steel on my 910+, now need for an update if a Ti version would appear on gb or ft.

I doubt though that it would be lighter as my 96g cf version :wink:

The 7010 Ti would be interesting with a tip-up clip but I guess they’ll never do that…

Hi John.,

The “EU regs” label is to do with shipping, not inspection. The Chinese sellers basically send a large parcel with many orders to, say, the Netherlands and then the individual orders are sent out from there.

Regards,

Paul

Thank`s for the information.

John.

Yes prices are high but note that they charge €28 for an ordinary Land 9103. Same knife is regularly under €14 on Gearbest.
Therefore we can assume the Ti versions would be approx 2x cheaper if an Asian store like GB/FT could stock them.

It will be unfortunate if these are Europe-only exclusives. I would have thought that Chinese manufacturers don’t really respect exclusivity deals anyway, they sell to whoever pays.

Anybody know how to suggest to Gearbest that they try to stock these? (ie that they contact their supplier and inquire about it). I tried once with another knife but due to language barrier they had no idea what I was asking.

You could always ask in the GearBest deals thread.

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/28604

John.