[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

[Texas_Ace]

@Bozlight29

I informed Neal about the list with DHL shippings. He wrote me that Lumintop uses $25 on the invoice. This is not correct, as they put $30 for shipping with batteries. I told him to look at the list on blf. I am wondering if Neal has any influence on the things Lumintop put on the invoice.

He has influence but not control.

[kntx]

@Texas_Ace

@Keisari

However, it’s been an official fact for some weeks that DHL USA shipped first just because it was more convenient to send in bulk, and other DHL orders followed because that too was so convenient. In reality LT had found out registered would be expensive and inconvenient, and feared losing face.

This is partly true but there have been much larger issues as well. For example one issue they ran into was that the various permits they need in china (which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me being from the USA but I have heard enough to know this is a very unplesent part of china business) had to be renewed for 2018, which caused some delays.

There were also complications with the battery shipping and with the carrier and they have just be sorting through them as they come up as I understand it.

Them not explaining all of this sooner was in part to being embarrassed and worried about backlash for sure though (with good reason it seems after seeing what mere rumors of issues can do on here). Can’t blame them to much for that as they were at least shipping lights as fast as they could, just in an order we didn’t expect.

Could You please do me a favour,as Neal doesnt answer my email; december 15th i sent 42,50$(shipping to friends option) for cells to be shipped separately that GT , and as i havent received any answer from him,i would prefer to look forward other options and need my money back ,seeing so many troubles to ship cells and registered shipping,i assume it’s the best option for both (my email is nickc*sb*a@hotmail.com) - i would really appreciate that ,thanx

[Megabassie]

@Pulsar

Just an idea, if you are scamming customs it would probably be smarter to do some weird number like $23.87 if the max is $25. Would be kind of suspicious to me if I was a customs agent and a bunch of packages came in at exactly the limit.

Very smart of you Pulsar !

[Texas_Ace]

@kntx

@Texas_Ace

@Keisari

However, it’s been an official fact for some weeks that DHL USA shipped first just because it was more convenient to send in bulk, and other DHL orders followed because that too was so convenient. In reality LT had found out registered would be expensive and inconvenient, and feared losing face.

This is partly true but there have been much larger issues as well. For example one issue they ran into was that the various permits they need in china (which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me being from the USA but I have heard enough to know this is a very unplesent part of china business) had to be renewed for 2018, which caused some delays.

There were also complications with the battery shipping and with the carrier and they have just be sorting through them as they come up as I understand it.

Them not explaining all of this sooner was in part to being embarrassed and worried about backlash for sure though (with good reason it seems after seeing what mere rumors of issues can do on here). Can’t blame them to much for that as they were at least shipping lights as fast as they could, just in an order we didn’t expect.

Could You please do me a favour,as Neal doesnt answer my email; december 15th i sent 42,50$(shipping to friends option) for cells to be shipped separately that GT , and as i havent received any answer from him,i would prefer to look forward other options and need my money back ,seeing so many troubles to ship cells and registered shipping,i assume it’s the best option for both (my email is nickc*sb*a@hotmail.com) - i would really appreciate that ,thanx

Send me a PM about this and I will forward it to Neal.

[Bozlight29]

@Texas_Ace

@Bozlight29

I informed Neal about the list with DHL shippings. He wrote me that Lumintop uses $25 on the invoice. This is not correct, as they put $30 for shipping with batteries. I told him to look at the list on blf. I am wondering if Neal has any influence on the things Lumintop put on the invoice.

He has influence but not control.

ah, looks like my marriage

[pepinfaxera]

Remember how two packages were started
recorded delivery
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” Post # 4487”:[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping. - #4488 by Neal , Fri, 07/28/2017 - 06:07,

@Neal

, because the NDM can’t send over 2kg.
the BLF GT with package will be about 2.5-3kg. so we have to send the mail like DHL.
we will declare low so for Europe members may need to pay customs.

we also think about divide into two part,
but it will increase the shipping fees, and will will add the risk of damage or missing part in shipping.

Regards,
Neal

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” Post # 4488”:[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping. - #4489 by pepinfaxera , Fri, 07/28/2017 - 06:28

@pepinfaxera

, agree to pay + two packages.
I assume extra expenses for two packages.
Very expensive DHL
Customs + commission DHL.

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” Post # 4489”:[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping. - #4490 by Neal , Fri, 07/28/2017 - 09:24

@Neal

@pepinfaxera

, agree to pay + two packages.
I assume extra expenses for two packages.
Very expensive DHL
Customs + commission DHL.

we will talk with this.
I am also hate customs.

I keep saying
I agree to pay the difference
of the shipping fees
.
Tell me Amount US $
and payment method
“PayPal link”?
.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

Ok, so maybe I got bored…

Yesterday I turned a handle, didn’t have a bracket to attach it too and it bugged me all night. So today I went out to the shop and dug out the 20+ year old G10 plate that started life designed to mount a surgical machine that is used for knee replacements. This plate is about 13/16” thick, extremely dense and stable material. A little time on the table saw, some fancy footwork on the drill press, a little hand sanding and polishing and voila! Bracket.

[kntx]

@Texas_Ace

@kntx

@Texas_Ace

@Keisari

However, it’s been an official fact for some weeks that DHL USA shipped first just because it was more convenient to send in bulk, and other DHL orders followed because that too was so convenient. In reality LT had found out registered would be expensive and inconvenient, and feared losing face.

This is partly true but there have been much larger issues as well. For example one issue they ran into was that the various permits they need in china (which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me being from the USA but I have heard enough to know this is a very unplesent part of china business) had to be renewed for 2018, which caused some delays.

There were also complications with the battery shipping and with the carrier and they have just be sorting through them as they come up as I understand it.

Them not explaining all of this sooner was in part to being embarrassed and worried about backlash for sure though (with good reason it seems after seeing what mere rumors of issues can do on here). Can’t blame them to much for that as they were at least shipping lights as fast as they could, just in an order we didn’t expect.

Could You please do me a favour,as Neal doesnt answer my email; december 15th i sent 42,50$(shipping to friends option) for cells to be shipped separately that GT , and as i havent received any answer from him,i would prefer to look forward other options and need my money back ,seeing so many troubles to ship cells and registered shipping,i assume it’s the best option for both (my email is nickc*sb*a@hotmail.com) - i would really appreciate that ,thanx

Send me a PM about this and I will forward it to Neal.

PM sent

[patmurris]

@Lfatman

Would it be possible to know how much it costs to Lumintop shipping by mail and by DHL?
Depending on how much is the amount, people who have chosen to be sent by registered mail could be interested in paying this difference and both parties would benefit.

+1

I can understand LT may have miscalculated the registered mail incidence for such a big light… It would be unfair if they ended up losing money on this GB because we asked for this option. I would be willing to pay extra for registered if that can solve this issue.

[fonfan]

@Texas_Ace

Send me info about shipping. DHL express doesnt work in my country with people - only with companies. But there are others mail servises. Epacket can include <2kg each. But LiIon separately.

[NikolaS]

Maybe we could organize a donation link like PayPal/me with fixed payment of 3$…
I am sure that 1000 people from the list would agree to send that small amount for helping the LT to cover the expenses for shipping with registered shipping and some DHL shipments that costs more than usual?

Just an idea, and I know that 3000$ wouldn’t cover all remaining packages to be sent but it would help a lot for rest of 850 that are still waiting…

Sometimes like this in the OP

Pay Nikola Stojsavljevic using PayPal.Me

Just a example, don’t use the link

[fonfan]

Free shipping was declared. They could think and check before

[NikolaS]

@fonfan

Free shipping was declared. They could think and check before

Oh yeah that’s what it should be, but since their problem is affecting this project from being done properly, I suggested a small amount that everyone could afford…

As I said it’s just proposition

[JasonWW]

@AlexGT

@Henk4U2

@hunter1

@Myers

Can somebody measure how much the weight of the head and the others (tube, carryers)?

Here are my number:

BLF GT
with batteries 2273 g (8 x 35E)
tail-cap 91 g
one battery holder 64 g (empty)
one battery 48 g (35E)
one battery holder 259 g (with 4 x 35E)
two battery holder 518 g (with 8 x 35E)
battery tube 285 g
BLF GT head 1379 g (with screw 1381 g)

Thank you for your detailled answer. I am wondering what questions are not yet answered about the weight of the light.
The only one I can think of is: duh, yeah, but what about the weight of MY GT?

Great job!

Team Giggles should add this information to the first post with the specifications, and also add the thickness of the MCPCB (1.6mm right?)

I added this to post #2.

[xxx]

@Sonofspectrum

People who are prepared to change from registered to DHL shipping.
As Lumintop seem to be having trouble with finding a financially viable way of shipping the GT via registered mail (and due to the very long wait some of us have had) some people don’t mind changing to DHL shipping and take the risk with possible import charges. People have been trying to contact Neal so I have started this list because it may be better for Neal to receive all the info as one instead of lots of people trying to pm him and Texas_Ace with requests to change shipping.

This is just an interest list, putting your name here does not mean its going to happen. As Texas_Ace has said it may be too late to change.
Lets see what happens

1. bella-headlight.
2. Sonofspectrum.
3. polarweis. But only if value will say 15 for flashlight 10 for shipping.
4. 777.
5. G0OSE.
6. mrheosuper.
7. LEDtec.
8. gregor.
9. Megabassie. But only if value will say 15 for flashlight, 10 for shipping.
10. DBSAR.
11. magnet.
12. martook.

Thanks for list Sonofspectrum

@Texas_Ace

For the list of those willing to switch to DHL, know that there is NO GUARANTEE that this can or will happen. It is so late in the game I am not sure what is still possible to change at this point. I will pass on the list to Neal and see what happens.

Do no be surprised if it is too late to make a change like this.

I make table, so you/we can update the list
table(table#posts).
|No|BLF Name|Flashlight Value Req (:money_mouth_face:|Shipping Cost Req (:money_mouth_face:|Total Cost Req (:money_mouth_face:|
|1|bella-headlight||||
|2|Sonofspectrum||||
|3|polarweis|15|10|25|
|4|777||||
|5|G0OSE||||
|6|mrheosuper|||40|
|7|LEDtec||||
|8|gregor||||
|9|Megabassie|15|10|25|
|10|DBSAR||||
|11| magnet||||
|12|martook||||
|13|Geese|||40|
|14|xxx|39|19|58|
|15|Mops1|15|10|25|
|16|Dralf|15|10|25|
|17|jkbam|||-|
|18|james y|15|10|25|
|19|FritzHID|||-|
|20|Silent_Star|39|19|58|
|21|||||
|22|||||
|23|||||
|24|||||
|25|||||
|26|||||
|27|||||
|28|||||
|29|||||
|30|||||
|31|||||
|32|||||
|33|||||
|34|||||
|35|||||
|36|||||
|37|||||
|38|||||
|39|||||
|40|||||

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

Thanks seery,

I haven’t had a lot of luck with my knurling tool so this started out as an experiment to try another way, which was a fail. My lathe can cut threads down to 8 tpi, or 3.50mm, so I was trying this as a measure to use my thread cutting tool to cut checkering, only I can’t reverse my drive independent of my chuck. The handle here is 8 tpi, pretty grippy for a big screw! lol

I could use the checkering tool, maybe go about the hollow handle a little differently for time savings, but even then it wouldn’t match the knurling on the GT as my tool is a lot finer than what they use, probably CNC cut anyway, and while I can cut the circular rings I don’t have a mill to cut flats…

[teacher]

@fonfan

Free shipping was declared. They could think and check before

True…. but they could also, now that they apparently have checked; just cancel orders & refund money.
I think NikolaS has a very good idea……

[johny723]

I understand many people have the right to complain about Lumintop and their communication with us, but let us not forget their willingness and enthusiasm to take part in this crazy project, low GB price that is almost unreasonable to offer, and speed they had during the construction of prototypes. Everyone makes mistakes, even Lumintop, so do not be too hard on them. They could refund us the money any time and offer you the GT at its full retail price + shipping. Give them time to sort this issue out.

Otherwise this GB will turn into a nightmare for both us and Lumintop, not to mention its potential impact on other manufacturers in all future projects. If we go on like this, nobody will not be willing to build anything for us, a small group of constantly complaining customers, who pay just the production cost and shipping fees of a great, unprecedented flashlight, and still expect a prompt and trouble free purchase, with no taxes paid upon delivery on top of that.

[Texas_Ace]

@pepinfaxera

I keep saying
I agree to pay the difference
of the shipping fees
.
Tell me Amount US $
and payment method
“PayPal link”?
.

Contact Neal about this. He is the one that you would need to talk to.

[Texas_Ace]

@patmurris

@Lfatman

Would it be possible to know how much it costs to Lumintop shipping by mail and by DHL?
Depending on how much is the amount, people who have chosen to be sent by registered mail could be interested in paying this difference and both parties would benefit.

+1

I can understand LT may have miscalculated the registered mail incidence for such a big light… It would be unfair if they ended up losing money on this GB because we asked for this option. I would be willing to pay extra for registered if that can solve this issue.

The cost for shipping varies by destination, I think most destinations average out to around ~$40 from what I could gather, which is about what they budgeted for the shipping costs for the GT based on other information I have put together.

The issue is that some of the smaller countries are costing upwards of $85 and needless to say that is not exactly great for lumintop.

You can’t really blame them too much for missing this either, they have never shipping orders this big before so it is all new for them. Plus looking up the prices for every possible country is not practical from someone that has personally shipped well over 25k orders over the years.