In here (Sp…n) they want the PP receipt,dont buy it ; be4,better make sure
I ordered from m4d m4x website on january 3
8pcs Samsung 35E x 1 - $40.50
BLF GT by M4D M4X (DHL) x 1 - $157.22
Giggles Donation x 1 - $1.00
I chose DHL on the website, please declare value of Flashlight: 15$, shipping: 10$
| No | BLF Name | Flashlight Value Req (:money_mouth_face: | Shipping Cost Req (:money_mouth_face: | Total Cost Req (:money_mouth_face: |
| 1 | bella-headlight | |||
| 2 | Sonofspectrum | |||
| 3 | polarweis | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 4 | 777 | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 5 | G0OSE | |||
| 6 | mrheosuper | 40 | ||
| 7 | LEDtec | |||
| 8 | gregor | 20 | 10 | 30 |
| 9 | Megabassie | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 10 | DBSAR | |||
| 11 | magnet | |||
| 12 | martook | |||
| 13 | Geese | 40 | ||
| 14 | xxx | 39 | 19 | 58 |
| 15 | Mops1 | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 16 | Dralf | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 17 | jkbam | - | - | - |
| 18 | james y | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 19 | FritzHID | - | - | - |
| 20 | Silent_Star | 39 | 19 | 58 |
| 21 | e10sno | 25.49 | 4.63 | 30.12(declare as a gift) |
| 22 | square74 | 14.50 | 11 | 25.50 |
| 23 | WestBam | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 24 | ZozzV6 | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 25 | VRT | 16 | 10 | 26 |
| 26 | Morgy | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 27 | R.D. | 15 | 10 | 25 |
| 28 | - | - | - | - |
| 29 | - | - | - | - |
| 30 | - | - | - | - |
| 31 | - | - | - | - |
| 32 | - | - | - | - |
| 33 | - | - | - | - |
| 34 | - | - | - | - |
| 35 | - | - | - | - |
| 36 | - | - | - | - |
| 37 | - | - | - | - |
| 38 | - | - | - | - |
| 39 | - | - | - | - |
| 40 | - | - | - | - |
Yep, I agree; it does suck. But it is what it is. I think we are getting on a very slippery slope asking a manufacturer to undervalue their product even more than they already have. And “to me”… asking them to send it as a gift is just to much.
Ain’t that the truth!! :person_facepalming: … . 
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Check your PM’s
If you are in the USA, you don’t have to worry about customs or taxes.
It will probably be declared at $30.
For the USA you need at least a $800 declared value before you have to pay customs fees. IIRC.
Waiting to hear back from Neal on if it is too late for people to change the shipping method. Now that the weekend is over hopefully will hear from him soon.
edit: deleted, I wait for the sequels…
+1. It’s greedy and it’s potentially bad for someone. Not just for buyers who might have their stuff scrutinized more, but to any party involved. A conspiracy to help in a customs fraud is not exactly beneficial to a forum and its owner. Of course legislation varies between countries and the US is probably pretty safe from consequences from some Swedish or Chinese bureaucrat losing it, crapping herself and attempting going international. As an opposite example, in my country very few domestic open and public forums would even allow the kind of discussion.
I don’t know who started a movement to maintain a list where people who wish to change their shipping method can make specific requests on how the manufacturer should help them in scamming their local authorities, but… come on. Was there ever such a list? I know there was a thread where wishes on how to value a package were collected, but this is one step further - and just adding a column as part of a reply to this spontaneous list about whether a parcel should be marked as a gift is on whole another level. How and when were Lumintop contacted about it and how come they wanted to do this… wait, that did not happen, right? 
Undervaluing packages might have been beneficial to customers for a long time, but these days I doubt it would make a difference in the greater scheme - at least in some countries. The amount of retail stuff coming in to most western countries from mostly China has skyrocketed in the past couple of years and seems to further grow. There’s only so many packages for example Finnish Customs can process, and if Chinese retailers started stating values honestly, the customs would have pretty much no choice but to ignore the majority of shipments for the time being. It’s not like any EU member government would be making a profit for charging 5-10 euros VAT per a typical package with all the expensive manpower involved and complicated communications needed unless they start charging service fees - which would in turn practically stop private import from Asia.
I don`t want to read all the pages, please tell me the problem with the registered Mail option. Is it to expensive for Lumintop to ship these orders to some countries, or are all countries involved?
Thanks
Robert
Robert…… You can go back to Saturday morning & read all the posts by TA to get that info. To much for me to repeat here.
Why that info isn’t in OP?
Beats me…… :question:
You are correct. Correct should be 15+10=25
I don’t know how to correct above excel table. If someone can please correct it.
Thank you
I don’t realize what happens here. Why is this table? It’s additional payments for fast dispatch?
TA…. I was referring to the valuable updates & info YOU gave in your posts of Saturday morning.
The ones many will never see because they never read & keep up.
Nothing more… was stated or implied.
Sorry, I was harsher then I should have been. I know what you meant, it was not a problem to suggest it.
The OP is more for long term issues or for things that we can actually provide information about.
At this point there is simply nothing of any real value to put in the op besides this weeks shipments have been delayed some, which will be irreverent as soon as they start shipping again.
At this point it is nothing more then a delay in shipping, they technically could not even ship now if they wanted as they don’t have the reflectors yet. So really things are still proceeding as they should.
I ordered mine a few weeks ago and chose registered mail as shipping method, as I was not in a hurry. I have not received any shipping information as of yet.
I would gladly change to DHL if that makes it easier for them. In fact I had replied to original payment confirmation email from Neal stating exactly this; that he could ship it with DHL if that is preferable.
Edit:
Thank you TA for keeping us updated and in the loop!
Shout out for Team Giggles for your continued time and effort…you know who you are!
Most of all, THANKS Neal!!
I also dont mind switching to DHL if it helps them out.
Naah…. you didn’t come across harsh, to me anyway. I just wanted to make sure I had not been misunderstood.
I thought your Saturday update & info about things you had found out from Neal was good & informative. :+1:
I could not read all the posts since my last visit
Maybe I missed something
Due to health problems I will have to stop following this thread (and BLF) for a while
An old ailment that I thought I had controlled has come back to bother me
My only concern is to obtain the DHL AWB to make the customs declaration, when it is shipped
It is shipped, when it is shipped
The last email I sent to Neal reminding him that the tracking number is absolutely necessary to make the customs declaration was not answered
Possibly he has not responded because he has not been sent yet
If it has not been sent yet, no problem
It is shipped, when it is shipped
I want the best Giggles
Giggles continue to arrive without notice of the tracking number
That will not happen in my country
If I do not make the customs declaration, I will not get it
If I do not have a tracking number I can not make the customs declaration
The only way to get my Giggles is with the tracking number
I called DHL to find out if there was a package in my name to get the AWB
They replied that they can only deliver information to the sender or with the AWB
If I do not have a AWB, they can not do anything for me
They told me that the AWB must be given to me by the sender
They suggest to me that if the sender does not send me the AWB, I can claim it initiating a dispute in Paypal (I hope I do not have to do it, I do not want to do it
By law, In case of not making the customs declaration within 30 calendar days counted from when the parcel arrives to the customs office, it is considered in abandonment
If it is considered in abandonment the customs will decide what to do with it
- It can be returned
- It can be destroyed
- It can be confiscated
The only way of communication that I will have while the medical treatment lasts will be by email
I hope to receive an email (as it was said it would be), from Neal, Lumintop (or whoever can), with the DHL AWB
PS, About two weeks ago I sent Neal an extra payment for the shipping fees, as we agreed