[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

[g_sintornillos]

I could not read all the posts since my last visit
Maybe I missed something

Due to health problems I will have to stop following this thread (and BLF) for a while
An old ailment that I thought I had controlled has come back to bother me

My only concern is to obtain the DHL AWB to make the customs declaration, when it is shipped

It is shipped, when it is shipped

The last email I sent to Neal reminding him that the tracking number is absolutely necessary to make the customs declaration was not answered
Possibly he has not responded because he has not been sent yet
If it has not been sent yet, no problem
It is shipped, when it is shipped
I want the best Giggles

Giggles continue to arrive without notice of the tracking number
That will not happen in my country

If I do not make the customs declaration, I will not get it
If I do not have a tracking number I can not make the customs declaration
The only way to get my Giggles is with the tracking number

I called DHL to find out if there was a package in my name to get the AWB
They replied that they can only deliver information to the sender or with the AWB
If I do not have a AWB, they can not do anything for me
They told me that the AWB must be given to me by the sender
They suggest to me that if the sender does not send me the AWB, I can claim it initiating a dispute in Paypal (I hope I do not have to do it, I do not want to do it

By law, In case of not making the customs declaration within 30 calendar days counted from when the parcel arrives to the customs office, it is considered in abandonment

If it is considered in abandonment the customs will decide what to do with it

- It can be returned

- It can be destroyed

• It can be confiscated

The only way of communication that I will have while the medical treatment lasts will be by email
I hope to receive an email (as it was said it would be), from Neal, Lumintop (or whoever can), with the DHL AWB

PS, About two weeks ago I sent Neal an extra payment for the shipping fees, as we agreed

[JasonWW]

@fonfan

I don’t realize what happens here. Why is this table? It’s additional payments for fast dispatch?

No, some of the forum members here (who asked for registered mail shipping) took it upon themselves to make a list of who would like to switch to DHL and what they would like to see for declared values.

No one from the Team Giggles nor Lumintop asked them to do this.

Maybe it is helpful to Neal? I don’t really know.

[RobertB]

@whateatsrabbits

I ordered from m4d m4x website on january 3

8pcs Samsung 35E x 1 - $40.50

BLF GT by M4D M4X (DHL) x 1 - $157.22

Giggles Donation x 1 - $1.00

I chose DHL on the website, please declare value of Flashlight: 15$, shipping: 10$

If you’re from the US, you don’t have to worry about it. We are allowed up to $800

[JasonWW]

@warzi1975

I don`t want to read all the pages, please tell me the problem with the registered Mail option. Is it to expensive for Lumintop to ship these orders to some countries, or are all countries involved?

Thanks
Robert

I’ll try and sum up the registered mail issue with various posts from Texas_Ace from Jan 26th and 27th. This from Texas_Ace so it’s all official information.

Texas_Ace:

It seems Lumintop are having trouble figuring out how to ship the registered mail shipments in a way that will be delivered with minimal customs issues and high reliability combined with reasonable costs. Seems that some areas could cost $80 to ship the light so they are trying to figure out more reasonable options as that kind of cost obviously causes them to loose a fair amount of money on the light.

I think they have a few options they are testing / working out now. Once they settle on one the lights should ship fairly quickly. I will let you know more when I know more.

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Neal said he will have them finish shipping to the first 555 before the others once they sort out the registered mail. He hopes they will have that figured out next week, not getting into the details but know that both Neal and lumintop have been hard at work trying to get this sorted out for some time.

Neal also told me that the UK orders are shipping today (which could be Monday before they are actually on their way based on past experience), he thinks they have the customs issues sorted out. (I think this is the DHL orders. JW)

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@Bozlight29

Thanks for the update TA. For the members that took registered mail, it’s very disappointing that Lumintop almost 2 month after the final payments came in, is not knowing how to send the GT’s. Banggood and Aliexpress are sending all their goods by registered mail all the time. Why did they offer it? Maybe the have to use dhl only and work something out for the members that have to pay tax, maybe 1/2 of the tax refund by paypal or something. It could be cheaper than using registered mail.

You are comparing lights that weight 250g with a light that weights 2500g. The weight and size is the problem with shipping the GT.

The other issue is customs, they are trying to find the highest likely hood that it will not be charged customs fees all while keeping the price low enough to not be loosing even more money.

This is no small task.

Also the registered mail was something we demanded, not something they wanted to do. They only wanted to offer DHL but many on here wanted an option with a better chance of not having customs fees, so they decided to offer registered mail as an option.

In retrospect I can pretty much say that they regret that decision.

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@Franz

If I remember in original OP while in agust, Miller told me the light will shipped in two boxes on registered mail…… It changed?

But Texas Ace was tolding about large packet with 2.5kg (if i’m not wrong), it made me think the things are changed

It is not clear at this time how they will be shipped. I get the feeling it will vary depending on the destination. Most of the basic mail shipping methods are limited to 2kg but they can also cost $30-40 per box to ship.

All I know at this time is they are working on the best options.

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For the list of those willing to switch to DHL, know that there is NO GUARANTEE that this can or will happen. It is so late in the game I am not sure what is still possible to change at this point. I will pass on the list to Neal and see what happens.

Do no be surprised if it is too late to make a change like this.

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The cost for shipping varies by destination, I think most destinations average out to around ~$40 from what I could gather, which is about what they budgeted for the shipping costs for the GT based on other information I have put together.

The issue is that some of the smaller countries are costing upwards of $85 and needless to say that is not exactly great for lumintop.

You can’t really blame them too much for missing this either, they have never shipping orders this big before so it is all new for them. Plus looking up the prices for every possible country is not practical from someone that has personally shipped well over 25k orders over the years.

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(From Jan 29th)

Waiting to hear back from Neal on if it is too late for people to change the shipping method. Now that the weekend is over hopefully we will hear from him soon.

[JasonWW]

I added a link to Post #1 to my previous post.

Note that I might move this link down to my little update section later on.

Lately there just hasn’t been much news to report.

[Tender]

You rock Jason. Thanks man

[teacher]

/\\…… :+1:

[Texas_Ace]

Thanks for the synopsis Jason.

[donttellmywifeiambuy (donttellmywifeiambuyinganotherlight)]

does anyone know when the next invoicing for payments will be ready ?

I have had the cash sitting idle in paypal for about a month….
(funds just sitting in paypal is not ideal)
so I would rather pay up now if possible?
and I don’t mind waiting for the “most awesome flashlight ever designed” to ship

[xxx]

@Sonofspectrum

People who are prepared to change from registered to DHL shipping.
As Lumintop seem to be having trouble with finding a financially viable way of shipping the GT via registered mail (and due to the very long wait some of us have had) some people don’t mind changing to DHL shipping and take the risk with possible import charges. People have been trying to contact Neal so I have started this list because it may be better for Neal to receive all the info as one instead of lots of people trying to pm him and Texas_Ace with requests to change shipping.

This is just an interest list, putting your name here does not mean its going to happen. As Texas_Ace has said it may be too late to change.
Lets see what happens

1. bella-headlight.
2. Sonofspectrum.
3. polarweis. But only if value will say 15 for flashlight 10 for shipping.
4. 777.
5. G0OSE.
6. mrheosuper.
7. LEDtec.
8. gregor.
9. Megabassie. But only if value will say 15 for flashlight, 10 for shipping.
10. DBSAR.
11. magnet.
12. martook.

Thanks for list Sonofspectrum

@Texas_Ace

For the list of those willing to switch to DHL, know that there is NO GUARANTEE that this can or will happen. It is so late in the game I am not sure what is still possible to change at this point. I will pass on the list to Neal and see what happens.

Do no be surprised if it is too late to make a change like this.

Also you maybe need to pay Tax and/or Fee. Please refer to your local DHL
I make table, so you/we can update the list
table(table#posts).
|No|BLF Name|Flashlight Value Req (:money_mouth_face:|Shipping Cost Req (:money_mouth_face:|Total Cost Req (:money_mouth_face:|
|1|bella-headlight||||
|2|Sonofspectrum||||
|3|polarweis|15|10|25|
|4|777|15|10|25|
|5|G0OSE|15|10|25|
|6|mrheosuper|||36.77|
|7|LEDtec||||
|8|gregor|15|10|25|
|9|Megabassie|15|10|25|
|10|DBSAR||||
|11| magnet||||
|12|martook||||
|13|Geese|||40|
|14|xxx|39|19|58|
|15|Mops1|15|10|25|
|16|Dralf|15|10|25|
|17|jkbam|15|10|25|
|18|james y|15|10|25|
|19|FritzHID|||-|
|20|Silent_Star|39|19|58|
|21|e10sno|25.49|4.63|30.12(declare as a gift)|
|22|square74|14.50|11|25.50|
|23|WestBam|15|10|25|
|24|ZozzV6|15|10|25|
|25|VRT|16|10|26|
|26|Morgy|15|10|25|
|27|R.D.|15|10|25|
|28|Tender|||-|
|29|Dep668|30|15|45|
|30|JorisFRST|14.96|9|23.96|
|31|||||
|32|||||
|33|||||
|34|||||
|35|||||
|36|||||
|37|||||
|38|||||
|39|||||
|40|||||

[JasonWW]

@donttellmywifeiambuyinganotherlight

does anyone know when the next invoicing for payments will be ready ?

From Jan 26th.

@Texas_Ace

While not official yet, I still need to talk with Neal and lumintop about it, I can pretty much say at this point that the 3rd batch of PM’s will be waiting until after Chinese new years.

This would be late February.

On the plus side, it gives Lumintop a little extra time to get more reflectors, build up a larger batch of lights to ship and reduce the time between paying and it being shipped.

[Keisari]

@donttellmywifeiambuyinganotherlight

I have had the cash sitting idle in paypal for about a month….
(funds just sitting in paypal is not ideal)

Every now and then I hear about this, and it’s been confusing me for a while.

Economy wise, isn’t it even less ideal to have spent the money on something that may arrive in a few months than have the funds sitting idle on a PP account? Not that even that would be ideal at all.

However, why would someone transfer money to PP just waiting for something to be available for purchase? Don’t you have any Visa or MC debit or credit cards? PP takes these. It’s really convenient to just spend the amount through one of these when you buy something instead of making a transfer to PP beforehand. It’s never really necessary to give PP cash if you’re just looking to buy something. Just wondering.

[Flying_Luminosity]

Finally got around to ordering mine, with batteries and donation for a few beers.

[donttellmywifeiambuy (donttellmywifeiambuyinganotherlight)]

Keisari,

I am a seller on Ebay
and I do not “link” my credit cards to paypal
I only transfer money out of Paypal for items I sell directly to my bank
I do not like leaving funds in the PP account,
the only way I can add funds to paypal is when I sell something

[JorisFRST]

Hi,
if it’s really an issue for lumintop i’m fine to have both mine shipped by DHL.

so that would be 14,96$, 9$, 23.96$

(14,96 to mach my first paypal payment)

Anyway, not in a hurry, it’ll be there when it’s there ;-).

Thanks again for the team for all their efforts.

[NikolaS]

Hopefully we will have some news from Neal later today… It’s half past 5pm in China right now

[Tuigali]

Received another text from FedEx on Saturday, saying my package would be delivered on 02.02.2018. Got around to checking it today and it was sent back to the sender again, once more without leaving HK.
I am still waiting for a specific explanation from FedEx.

[mrheosuper]

Can i change my Declared Value in the table to less suspicious value, like 36.77$
Thank

[Essexman]

@Tuigali

Received another text from FedEx on Saturday, saying my package would be delivered on 02.02.2018. Got around to checking it today and it was sent back to the sender again, once more without leaving HK.
I am still waiting for a specific explanation from FedEx.

Are you sure you’ve not pissed someone off at FedEx and they are getting back at you?

[gastonpatagonico]

Hello, I do not understand how certified mail is more expensive than DHL, buy several times to lumintop from your page on Aliexpress, mails are always more expensive by mail as DHL, FEDEX, TNT, for example SD75 is sent only by some of these and Its shipping value is higher than 40 dollars, at least in my particular case it is like that, and it can be verified on the Ali page. The main reason why I choose to send registered mail is because, once I bought with DHL and I never received the package, I was detained in the customs of the capital of my country more than 1800 km from my house, I could only personally withdraw, this is the way in which DHL works here, to all other international shipments pay a customs tariff of 50% + 7 dollars of the local mail service, said this seems quite irresponsible as things are handled, not know how it will affect the shipping system before offering a product ………, I think it is more an excuse on the part of someone who does not specify, greetings!