FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight

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SKV89: You are number 844 and 1024 on this post,
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1255477#comment-1255477
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southcovekayak: You are number 1025 on this post,
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1255477#comment-1255477
Do you want a 2nd?
Please, publish it
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MascaratumB wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:
I’m tempted to write an interest-tracking bot which would monitor the thread, look for specific types of messages, and maintain an interest list automatically. It’d require people to phrase their requests in very specific ways though… like “TKbot, sign me up for 2” or “Minion, cancel #456”.

Hum, I guess it would be a nice idea. Maybe the only problem is the different ways people say they want to be interest list: or
- I’m in for N / I’m in
- I want N
- Please put me in the list / Please add me to the list /
- Sign me up for N
- Put me down for N
- I’d be interested in N / I am interested in N
- Count me in for N
- 1 please / N please
….

These are only some ways people say they want the FW3A. Also, despite the “bot”, wouldn’t it be necessary to re-check everything again to fill the gaps?
It is a brilliant idea, though Wink

I think it would be reasonable for the project team to say that requests to be added to the list have to be in a certain format, and to only intervene if the bot doesn’t function properly.

If anyone has trouble with the bot commands I’m sure other members will help them out.

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I see the BLF A6 is being sold off really cheap now, under $18. When compared to the quoted original price it seems like its being dumped. As a marketing ploy it works. Every time the price goes down I order yet another one. I am wondering if this will be the ultimate fate for the FW3A, can it be bought cheaper when it nears the end of it`s run.

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I don’t expect the FW3A to go for the same price as the BLF-A6 because it’s more expensive to produce. It has more components and requires higher precision in its parts. It could potentially hit prices below the original group buy price at some point, but I wouldn’t expect that any time soon.

That’s a normal price curve thing though, especially for group buy-type stuff. It starts low and ends low, with a higher price for most of its life in-between.

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Op went AWOL

Is he OK? I certainly hope so.

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will34 wrote:
Pulsar wrote:
Op went AWOL

Is he OK? I certainly hope so.


Last I knew, about a week or so ago someone posted he was posting to facebook and looks to be doing good
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We should copy the German forum where they have a thread for interest and a thread for discussion. Much much better imho.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
I’m tempted to write an interest-tracking bot .

MascaratumB wrote:
Hum, I guess it would be a nice idea. Maybe the only problem is the different ways people say they want to be interest list: or
- I’m in for N / I’m in
- I want N
- Please put me in the list / Please add me to the list /
- Sign me up for N
- Put me down for N
- I’d be interested in N / I am interested in N
- Count me in for N
- 1 please / N please
….

These are only some ways people say they want the FW3A. Also, despite the “bot”, wouldn’t it be necessary to re-check everything again to fill the gaps?
It is a brilliant idea, though Wink

skinny_tie wrote:
I think it would be reasonable

If anyone has trouble with the bot commands I’m sure other members will help them out.

It is a brilliant idea, though
Just as a style exercise
As mental training
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But, do not implement it
It would be a filter

Many would be left out
Although they propose a template

Many non-English language

Google translator and other translators
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Copy – translate – complete translate – paste
Some answers for a book of anecdotes jokes
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This is not exact what I wrote
Google translates as translate
I can not express exactly my idea

Sorry for my bad English
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Put me down for 1 please.

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OohNai wrote:
Put me down for 1 please.

OohNai: You are number1026 on this post,
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1255477#comment-1255477

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Jiffy wrote:
We should copy the German forum where they have a thread for interest and a thread for discussion.

I’ve been meaning to do that, actually. A thread for discussion, a thread for announcements, and some sort of automated way to sign up. Perhaps also something for FAQs and support. The idea is to take it a bit farther though, adding features which aren’t available on BLF, augmented by another site. Hopefully it can use OpenID or similar, to auth users directly from BLF.

For now, I’ll stick to only the easiest bits and the most pressing needs… like not having people burn out on interest-tracking duty. And, if it’s relevant, I could add more later.

That is, assuming I have time. Not sure that’ll be the case.

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I’m interested in one of these.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
I have the beginning of an interest-list bot. It’s a long way from being usable, but at least it does a few things so far:
  • Parses posts
  • Looks for and acts on things like “I’m in for N”, plus explicit commands like “TKbot, command arg1 arg2 …”
  • Maintains a database of pledges and cancellations for each user for each product
  • Remembers multiple projects which can have multiple products
  • Remembers which posts it has seen before, and ignores those
  • Detects new users in project threads and schedules a task to welcome them to BLF

However, it does not yet:

  • Run automatically
  • Download new posts
  • Post updates
  • Actually interact with BLF directly, at all
  • Detect which project a thread is about
  • Detect which product a request is about, if a project has more than one product
  • Import old interest lists
  • Generate updated interest lists
  • Ignore quoted text (so quoting a request for a product is parsed the same as actually requesting a product)
  • Have a web interface
  • Handle polls or voting (sometimes the “pick one” approach isn’t sufficient, so it might do Approval and Condorcet-style polls)

So it’s a super early proof of concept and there’s much left to do. Anyway, it’ll probably turn out something like this…

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Minion, sign me up for three lights.
Sure thing! Three lights coming right up!
This looks cool. Put me down for one.


Hello, Mister Hat. Welcome to BLF!

You are on the list for one.


… except probably less chipper and less chatty, since talkative bots tend to end up like this:

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TKbot, your time is coming.
Sorry, Lady Fate. I don’t understand.


You will.

I am constantly amazed by your skills. You would be the greatest neighbor ever!

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bmengineer wrote:
I’m interested in one of these.

bmengineer , You are number 1027 on this post,
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1255477#comment-1255477

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I think that the C blink should be before the end of regulation so we have time to stop while still in regulation.

That would be helpful, or some option to set it to “top of the regulated range”

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That would be very helpful.

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I think the name-collecting bot would work if it was combined with an auto responder that posts a message saying: “user_x, thank you for your interest. Your name has been added to the list under the number 1234”. If anybody uses an incorrect format that isn’t recognised, others will be able to point that user towards the first post describing the correct procedure.

If a filter is added that excludes the correct phrases if they are contained between quotation marks or apostrophes, it will also be possible for another member to reply using that phrase, without that member being added as well:

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You need to write that as “I’m interested in two” in order to be added to the list.

Definitely sounds like an interesting project.

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Flying Luminosity wrote:
I think the name-collecting bot would work if it was combined with an auto responder that posts a message saying: “user_x, thank you for your interest. Your name has been added to the list under the number 1234”. If anybody uses an incorrect format that isn’t recognised, others will be able to point that user towards the first post describing the correct procedure.

If a filter is added that excludes the correct phrases if they are contained between quotation marks or apostrophes, it will also be possible for another member to reply using that phrase, without that member being added as well:

Quote:
You need to write that as “I’m interested in two” in order to be added to the list.

Definitely sounds like an interesting project.


This is definitely an interesting bot and seems like it would be super helpful. I think that giving numbers to people when they post interest gives a false sense of priority that often comes back to cause problems when the buy starts to happen. There are always people who get … upset (shall we say) that they were number 25 on the interest list but didn’t get their toy until late in the game. Never mind that they disappeared from the boards and missed the buy signal, or they live on an a deserted island that gets deliveries by carrier pigeon only in months without an R. IMO The only reason to have numbers on the list is to make it easier to find yourself in the list, and provide a running count of theoretical buys. If the Bot can perform both of these functions without enumerating the list, I think it would be an improvement.

Lazy-R-us

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Lazy-R-us wrote:
or they live on an a deserted island that gets deliveries by carrier pigeon only in months without an R.

So… Canada?

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put me down for one please

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Please put me down for one.

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bmengineer wrote:
Lazy-R-us wrote:
or they live on an a deserted island that gets deliveries by carrier pigeon only in months without an R.

So… Canada?

Lol you made me spill my coffee from laughing

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Please add me to the list for one light.

I thought I was already on this list but it appears I’m not.

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Please sign me up for two!

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I’m just wondering why not just put this up on kickstarter like the Reylight TiLan v3? There will be more publicity and money pledged in the pool would be guaranteed available for use for the development/manufacturing.

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Hello, please sign me up for 2!

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SKV89 wrote:
I’m just wondering why not just put this up on kickstarter like the Reylight TiLan v3? There will be more publicity and money pledged in the pool would be guaranteed available for use for the development/manufacturing.

…fees (ADDITIONAL costs) of between 8-10%
…difficulty of cross platform organization
…loss(?) of ability for community collaboration
…already been a number of succesful projects done in this manner…if it aint broke…

IMHO, purchasing a product ( a la Kickstarter) does not induce that sense of ownership that stimulates and pushes forward the imaginations and development of a true open source project, like this one. Just my 2 cents

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Please sign me up for 1, thank you!

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drjamesfox wrote:
Please add me to the list for one light.

I thought I was already on this list but it appears I’m not.

the first post can’t be edited because The Miller is not here.

. The list is updated in this #post here:

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1255477#comment-1255477

drjamesfox , You are number 818 on this post,

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In please :).

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