*** NEW *** Haikelite MT09R Monster lights *** Update *** 2018-07-03

It’s right there in post #1 of the Group Buy thread.

There is an odd bug on both my green and khaki 70 versions. I think (hope) it’s just a minor error in the battery indicator section of the programming firmware.
When batteries are depleting and battery indicator starts blinking blue, which means voltage is about 3.6V~3.7V, then the battery indicator blinks on level 1 till level 4, but on turbo the battery indicator remains solid. It behaves like this until batteries are depleted until ~3.0V and battery indicator turns to blinking red for all levels from moonlight to turbo.
Anyone with the same phenomenon on their 70?

I will double check but I'm pretty sure about this.

Turbo is set up so that anytime it steps down you are able to kick it right back into turbo regardless of heat. Basically if you make it the light will bypass the heat and power output that goes with keeping it in turbo even after step down.

This is not a step down from turbo related phenomenon. It’s about what the battery indicator does as a function of cell voltage, and on what level of output you are. The battery indicator should be blinking blue below a certain voltage, but remains solid when in turbo. It’s supposed to be blinking too.

I know my order was shipped 2 weeks ago. I have the tracking number. How do I track it? Where do I go?

I guess you open the google, paste the tracking number, then search…

You can use this one for example.

Thank you. I didn’t know it’s coming from the Netherlands.

Is Charger going to ship out soon?

I hope so, but I do not know. Perhaps Terry knows more.

If you are in Turbo at cell levels low enough to already be giving a warning, then chances are you are also kicking it back into turbo past the 55 degree C stop down. (Not saying you are just that there is a good chance of it with most) It will allow you to bypass that feature including any power requirements needed. That I am aware of it will not flash at all in turbo. If the cells are already low enough begin flashing, then you are below any level that should be attempting to hit 15 to 16 thousand lumens.

So when I said it will allow you to keep kicking it into turbo until you either can’t stand the heat or you kill your cells I meant that literally. It was designed to use turbo ay anytime… And if you are getting a blue flash you are between 50 and 9 percent. Why try to go to turbo once that warns you that you could possibly be as low as 9 percent already.. This would mean it is time to stop and charge or change the cells.

The instructions even tell you that it will not ready correctly in turbo.

Nothing will ship out until after the Holiday.. I will ask for a more detailed answer later when I talk to Dale..

I see. I thought it meant voltage readout is not accurate due to voltage sag on turbo (high current). Alright then.

Does the term “ alarmist “ mean anything to you ?

It's not that bad lol.. It is really simple it just means that when in turbo mode do not depend on the voltage flashes because the light will stay a solid blue while in turbo...

Pushing far enough to go all the way until it actually turns red and steps down to a moonlight mode should only be in a serious situation and you have no other choice. It should not totally kill your cells, if it reaches that point no other mode can be used because the cells are too low.

Hey guys, I’m very late to this thanks to my work schedule. Any chance I can still get one of the Navy Blue XHP70.2 versions?

Ask Terry - the post directly above you. He makes the sales for the US. If he got one, he will sell it to you.

By the way, I have been asked to collect all our information about the two flashlights in another thread outside the GB - so let me sum up the actual situation:

- in the beginning of February the first lights have been sold by retail - the result for the 70 is as expected (a little below spex as usual in the flashlight business, but the babe is a real a$$-kicker), but the one for the 35 is bad - less than 50% of the formerly defined lumen.

In the fact, the first beamshots were really sad:

- a couple of days later we had the possibility to get the first one of the GB-35 in our hands - the results were better, but still no 7.500 lm:

In that time the official output of the 35 was decreased to 7.000 lm. The only problem: the measurement of the GB-version done in an ULLBRICHT sphere is around 4.000 lm…

Actually some of the problems can be pointed down to the batch number:

- the 35 with “21K” at the end is below 50% of the specified lumen. Those lights are actually sold by distributors for much less than the list price with an actualized lumen value.

- the 35 with “28K” is the one from the GB, measured at around 4.000 K

  • other versions with “24K” seem to be in the market, but no measurements up to now.

While having the 70 on the secure sight regarding lumen - as I said, some 10-15% less is not too bad in the flashlight-business -, the problems keep on coming. Actually the issues mentioned are as follows:

- the 35 has an output far below spex regarding lumen

- no discharge battery protection - in a test it went down to 2,49 V with the light still at Moonlight, so take care with unprotected batteries

  • no temperature control - a GB-delivery was measured with 100 °C while running shortly below Turbo

So: feel free to discuss all of these points in this thread and let us know what you think.

Terry any idea when u are getting some MT09R 35 to test ?

Since the main business of the 35 version is throw, why not post some lux readings?

Are others discovering thermal step down doesn’t work?