Somehow guys I stopped getting update email for this thread so I am just now getting to read all of the posts for the last couple of days.
The very first thing I want to take time to point out is that I let the entire world watch as I took the measurements of the 70.2 version of the MTO9R not once but twice and I have personally tested 5 that I have sold and shipped from my own warehouse.
You all saw the video and saw the lights easily made the 15k lumen output level. If anyone happens to get a Warm White tint it may and I say may because I do not have and have to tested a warm white tint yet. But it is possible that it will fall about 1k lumen lower just because of the the tint.
Back on point here. Everyone has saw that I have already proven it and anyone that has ordered one from me can tell you that their light was tested and if they wish I welcome them to please test yourself and verify the inspection label that was on your light when you got it.
My next point. Why in any manner of anything sensible would anyone post anything about what the light output of a light ordered in a group buy that I organized and they do not even own a lux meter.
I can not stress enough just how much I must implore you to please if you know how to and you have a lux meter to do your own testing
I do not yet have a 35 high version that I can test but I promise you that one is coming and I will post totally honest results. I have never posted false readings on any light made by anyone and I will never do so.
How in the world can you post anything about the lumen output of a light that I am representing without the proper equipment to get you to even a 10% reliability.
A photo cell on a mobile phone is by far too small and inaccurate on even the best of phones to attempt to use them as a reliable means of measuring light at these levels.
I personally own a Samsung S8 less than a year old and I can tell you that it is no where near close to the accuracy of even the least expensive of my light meter.
I am seeing post with actual claimed output levels but I am not seeing what was used to take these measurements.
I will not debate this person any further on the matter of either of these lights.
I will however ask members to please if you have the equipment and the knowledge to take your own measurements.
LOL I have an even better way.. Do it the way we use to many years ago and that is, buy a light. Turn it on. If you like it... Excellent....
One other thing I will mention. Out of all of the pictures I see posted it does appear at least to me that the MT09R 35 high is easily brighter than any of the others pictured lol...