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I hear rumour of a Lumintop competitor coming out shortly. Similar size and specs. And it looks great IMO. The Lumintop ODF30. Thoughts anyone? (Sorry, don’t mean to de-rail the thread)

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mizjif wrote:
I hear rumour of a Lumintop competitor coming out shortly. Similar size and specs. And it looks great IMO. The Lumintop ODF30. Thoughts anyone? (Sorry, don’t mean to de-rail the thread)

I saw that.. group buy is around $63.

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I preordered the tc20 and estimate shipping date was feb 23. Thrunite has shipped my tc20 2 days ago.. i will get it on thursday. My shockli imr is charged and ready.
Great sounds like they’re in stock now, I see they’re in stock at amazon too, both CW and NW. They need to change that ship date notice.

Only 4 days shipping!wow that’s fast, so I guess they shipped from USA not China?

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Newlumen wrote:
mizjif wrote:
I hear rumour of a Lumintop competitor coming out shortly. Similar size and specs. And it looks great IMO. The Lumintop ODF30. Thoughts anyone? (Sorry, don’t mean to de-rail the thread)

I saw that.. group buy is around $63.

Definitely not worth, this price is without battery and with battery is $2 more expensive Sick

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mizjif wrote:
I hear rumour of a Lumintop competitor coming out shortly. Similar size and specs. And it looks great IMO. The Lumintop ODF30. Thoughts anyone? (Sorry, don’t mean to de-rail the thread)

More info on the ODF30 please. If there’s a link that would be great

In regards to the TC20, Since I got the tube issue orientation sorted out, mine has been great and I like it a lot. The included 5000mah 26650 has been really good

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Itsme wrote:
mizjif wrote:
I hear rumour of a Lumintop competitor coming out shortly. Similar size and specs. And it looks great IMO. The Lumintop ODF30. Thoughts anyone? (Sorry, don’t mean to de-rail the thread)

More info on the ODF30 please. If there’s a link that would be great

In regards to the TC20, Since I got the tube issue orientation sorted out, mine has been great and I like it a lot. The included 5000mah 26650 has been really good

There won’t be too much more info until the CNY is done. This is the only info I can find:

https://m4dm4x.com/neals-deals-lumintop-odf30/

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mizjif wrote:
I hear rumour of a Lumintop competitor coming out shortly. Similar size and specs. And it looks great IMO. The Lumintop ODF30. Thoughts anyone? (Sorry, don’t mean to de-rail the thread)

More info on the ODF30 please. If there’s a link that would be great

In regards to the TC20, Since I got the tube issue orientation sorted out, mine has been great and I like it a lot. The included 5000mah 26650 has been really good

There won’t be too much more info until the CNY is done. This is the only info I can find:

https://m4dm4x.com/neals-deals-lumintop-odf30/

Thanks so much for the information and for the link

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ODF30 is very interesting.

It appears they tried their best to make a comparable flashlight, even the (introductory) price is the same, but there needs to be something special that says “Buy me instead” Smile

The 3 lower modes are a lot higher, not sure if that’s good or bad, depends on the user, just sayin’

Mode TC20 ODF30
Turbo 3800lm 3500lm
High 1800lm 1800lm
Med 320lm 540lm
Low 38lm 150lm
FF/ML .5lm 8lm
  • I don’t see an option for NW?
  • Looks like a rubber switch boot, good or bad? Again, depends on user preference.
  • Not sure what Limuntop does for their UI’s but I don’t think there’s a better UI than what the TC20 has, it’s become my favorite UI.
  • Dimensions are basically the same, but for some reason the Lumintop appears slightly longer, optical illusion I suppose..
  • Personally I prefer knurling, especially the awesome “near tool grade” knurling on the TC20, its better knurling than any other flashlight I own. The only light that even comes close in my collection is my old XENO Eo3 v2. (I’m a freak for aggressive knurling)

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I perfer the modes on the tc20, specially the .5 lumen moonlight. Thrunite is a premium brand IMO, the lumintop would have to be drastically less expensive for me to buy it.

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beam0 wrote:
ODF30 is very interesting.

It appears they tried their best to make a comparable flashlight, even the (introductory) price is the same, but there needs to be something special that says “Buy me instead” Smile

The 3 lower modes are a lot higher, not sure if that’s good or bad, depends on the user, just sayin’

Mode TC20 ODF30
Turbo 3800lm 3500lm
High 1800lm 1800lm
Med 320lm 540lm
Low 38lm 150lm
FF/ML .5lm 8lm
  • I don’t see an option for NW?
  • Looks like a rubber switch boot, good or bad? Again, depends on user preference.
  • Not sure what Limuntop does for their UI’s but I don’t think there’s a better UI than what the TC20 has, it’s become my favorite UI.
  • Dimensions are basically the same, but for some reason the Lumintop appears slightly longer, optical illusion I suppose..
  • Personally I prefer knurling, especially the awesome “near tool grade” knurling on the TC20, its better knurling than any other flashlight I own. The only light that even comes close in my collection is my old XENO Eo3 v2. (I’m a freak for aggressive knurling)

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Thanks for your input, I agree with all of your points.

Especially the knurling point. As a ex-machinist, I LOVE aggressive knurling. Honestly most lights have feeble useless knurling that turns me right off of even considering the light.

I agree, I loved my xeno and the awesome knurling on it.

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I think I'll stick with the TC20, the only thing I might wish for to make it almost perfect is an additional mode at around 750/800lm. 

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Please make a separate thread for the Lumintop ODF30.

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I got my tc20 Cool white today. This tc20 is very small and I like it.. I am going to use shockli imr 26650. Probably no need to use imr, but I am always above and beyond.. can’t wait for the dark..

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Wow. Thats all i can say. I run 100% high mode for 3 minutes using shockli IMR. I dint notice any stepdown. I thought this light is going to get hot when i try to turn off the switch at 3:02. The body of the light is warm. I know i can run the highest mode little longer, but i dont want to ruin the led and driver.. amazing light with the great heatsinking.. i might try to do another 3 minutes run tomorrow using the oem thrunite 26650.

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mizjif wrote:
beam0 wrote:
ODF30 is very interesting.

It appears they tried their best to make a comparable flashlight, even the (introductory) price is the same, but there needs to be something special that says “Buy me instead” Smile

The 3 lower modes are a lot higher, not sure if that’s good or bad, depends on the user, just sayin’

Mode TC20 ODF30
Turbo 3800lm 3500lm
High 1800lm 1800lm
Med 320lm 540lm
Low 38lm 150lm
FF/ML .5lm 8lm
  • I don’t see an option for NW?
  • Looks like a rubber switch boot, good or bad? Again, depends on user preference.
  • Not sure what Limuntop does for their UI’s but I don’t think there’s a better UI than what the TC20 has, it’s become my favorite UI.
  • Dimensions are basically the same, but for some reason the Lumintop appears slightly longer, optical illusion I suppose..
  • Personally I prefer knurling, especially the awesome “near tool grade” knurling on the TC20, its better knurling than any other flashlight I own. The only light that even comes close in my collection is my old XENO Eo3 v2. (I’m a freak for aggressive knurling)

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Thanks for your input, I agree with all of your points.

Especially the knurling point. As a ex-machinist, I LOVE aggressive knurling. Honestly most lights have feeble useless knurling that turns me right off of even considering the light.

I agree, I loved my xeno and the awesome knurling on it.

Your welcome, It’s nice to know someone agrees on the knurling, (and the xeno!) Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Yeah wimpy knurling on so many lights – that always kills me, some so faint it makes me wonder why they even bothered – even worse ones with no knurling. Similar to you probably, because I’m an ex mechanic and “tool” guy. I guess some complain it’s not “pocket friendly”, I say horsefeathers!

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Please make a separate thread for the Lumintop ODF30.
I’m sure someone will.

I don’t see the problem with a mention of it here though. Completely relevant since it’s the first real competitor size-wise. Acebeam and other lights have been mentioned plenty of times in this thread already, making discussion here helpful for pre-purchase decision making.

I didn’t mean to derail with my one-post comparison (probably seemed like a big post because I included a chart!) but don’t worry I wont be delving into an extensive discussion on the Lumintop here. Smile

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This thread plus a number of rave reviews on YouTube persuaded me. NW TC20 ordered.

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mizjif wrote:
This thread plus a number of rave reviews on YouTube persuaded me. NW TC20 ordered.

You can’t go wrong with either nw or Cw. XHP70.2 and XHP70 have different tint in the low mode.

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Alright, I waited long enough. I just ordered the CW version. This will be my first 26650 light.
I absolutely love the toothy knurling on Thrunite lights. It’s (hands down) the best!! Thumbs Up

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Alright, I waited long enough. I just ordered the CW version. This will be my first 26650 light. I absolutely love the toothy knurling on Thrunite lights. It’s (hands down) the best!! Thumbs Up

Nice.. you will like it. I have a CW version. its a good light, not too big.. user interface is awesome..

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I’ve been hanging around this thread since almost day one, and almost pre-ordered many times. Then decided to wait.
I think I’ll like this little powerhouse too. Thrunite =QUALITY.

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Alright, I waited long enough. I just ordered the CW version. This will be my first 26650 light.
I absolutely love the toothy knurling on Thrunite lights. It’s (hands down) the best!! Thumbs Up
Because of you’re affirmation on great knurling relating to “all” Thrunite lights it just occurred to me that their Wowtac line may share the same awesome knurling, I don’t own a Wowtac (yet) but it sure looks that way:

http://wowtac.com/

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I noticed Thrunite had a less expensive line-up. I’d like some quality comparisons of both.

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Thrunite pricing is good.. even if they broke, they can repair easily.. one of my modded thrunite was dead, and it was only the spring… can easily replaced.. thrunite also use the best led bin.

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I think I am going to order this TC20 today, I know robo819 and he is impressed with it so that gives it a green light… been looking at it since it was first announced and the discount emailed to me from Thrunite makes it more appealing. Not sure about the use of a orange peel reflector with the XHP-70.2, should have been a smooth reflector. I’ll either polish the reflector or use an MT-G2 emitter in mine. Will figure that out after I get a hands on with it. (mayhap a bit of a power bump as well, again, we’ll see)

Thanks for all the input on tints, I know it’s always a matter of perspective and one guy that “loves it!” may just love campfire orange while the next guy might have a thing for pulsar blue, so it’s always objective.

The odd hues in the beam profile from the 70.2 come from the new style from Cree, same as with the XP-G3 and XP-L2… the substrate is completely covered with the phosphor instead of just the die itself. I’ve had nice results from slicing the dome off then dicing the extra phosphor off the substrate. This is flip chip technology so there are no bond wires, the connections are under the die instead. So I may end up slicing and dicing the 70.2 emitter and polishing the heavy orange peel reflector to gain a hot spot and better throw. All depends on my impression of the lights performance in the end.

I am very much a fan of the MT-G2 so the orange peel reflector may play well with that emitter, will probably do some swapping out first before doing any texture removal.

Really a fan of Thrunite’s knurling, wish more lights had this more aggresive style…

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I think I am going to order this TC20 today……………………

…………..Not sure about the use of a orange peel reflector with the XHP-70.2, should have been a smooth reflector…………..

…………..I’ll either polish the reflector or use an MT-G2 emitter in mine……………………

…………..I am very much a fan of the MT-G2 so the orange peel reflector may play well with that emitter…………………

………….The odd hues in the beam profile from the 70.2 come from the new style from Cree, same as with the XP-G3 and XP-L2

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I really love the TC20, I got the NW and I don’t notice the odd hues when using it outdoors, only see it on white walls, but I do wish it had more throw. I think it’s definitely lacking in that department.

For the MT-G2 swap… I don’t know if Thrunite is using a 6v or a 12v emitter, (I assume 6v) but if the stock driver were used and it’s 6v wouldn’t it burn up the MT-G2 emitter from too high current? (I’m assuming it’s pushing around 4A+) Or if the TC20’s current was more in line with Cree specs there would be a substantial loss of output? (about half?)

XHP70.2: 4292 lm @ 4.8A (6V) or 2.4 A (12V)

MT-G2: 1987.5 lm @ 3A

(specs. from cree)

Does that sound correct? Of course I know you’ll be changing or modding the driver if you do it, just thinking out loud about MT-G2 with stock driver.

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Really a fan of Thrunite’s knurling, wish more lights had this more aggresive style…
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DB Custom wrote:
Really a fan of Thrunite’s knurling, wish more lights had this more aggresive style…
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Just to see what it would do to the beam I sliced and diced the stock cool white emitter. By that I mean I sliced off the dome as close as I dared to the phosphor and then I diced the edges of the phosphor around the die itself and cleaned that off.

It made a pretty good improvement in both the throw and the tint of the beam , with much less of the dark or olive around the main beam itself.

Edit: There was a loss of about 290 lumens by slicing and dicing the emitter , but worth it IMO to get the better tint and slightly tighter hotspot.

Here is a picture of the sliced and diced emitter and some beamshots with the newly sliced emitter also.

These shots at WHITE garage door from 20 feet away………

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These 2 shots at Gate 100 yards………….

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I may go get some peel washers and have a go at it too Thumbs Up

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