This is a moral question. I am not an anarchist nor a libertarian. I understand that there are consequences for not following laws. Legal =/= moral. An immoral law is not a law that I feel obligated to follow.
The handbag argument has already been addressed. I would never condone fraud.
Buddy, you’re just an anonymous guy on an obscure flashlight board, so I don’t really have much invested in you, or your opinions.
The girlfriend’s out clothes shopping for a Caribbean cruise in two weeks and I’m off of work, surfing the web.
If you view US patent law as being immoral, allowing you to ignore what it stands for and the consequences of violating it, or you feel that companies should be free to rip off features without compensation, for use in their own creations, than by all means patronize those companies, like Ganzo and UltraFire.
No skin off of my back, but when you say you’re not anarchistic, at least in part, you might want to self-reflect.
We don’t get to label laws just/unjust (moral/immoral) for the purpose of violating them scot-free.
Anyhow, I’ve said my peace and so the last word is yours.
Chris
Stop lying. I never said anything about justice nor violating laws scot-free. In fact, I said the opposite. I said I am willing to debate this topic, but you are clearly not tall enough for this ride if you are going to resort to lying about what I said.
I think we can all agree to disagree on this topic. No one is changing anyone else’s mind today and I think both side of the topic have adequately expressed themselves. Of course you can always go at it in PM! 
I think this is more a moral issue rather than legal. We are not lawyers looking to prosecute ganzo, we are just people looking to make the right decision for ourselves. And there is a distinction between legal and moral. We must consider whether laws are moral because to follow all laws without question is extreme and unreasonable.
Regarding IP, I think there are good and bad applications of the law, and one should look at each case individually to determine if one can morally support a company violating the law.
Back to the original topic, I have not handled any ganzo knives, but I have handled some byrds and they are very nice quality.
Nice burner account!
Chris
Buy what you want, let the BS for the Real Lawyers.
Peace OUT
Well then….
A good kershaw, I would recommend try the skyline. Love mine to death
I will say I have never liked spyderco. Never liked the designs or price.
I do like the two ganzos I have and many other people that bought them off me also like them a lot. They do not have the best steel in the world, but for the price, I have been impressed with the quality in all the ones I have had go threw my hands. They take on a real sharp edge fast, and hold it well in my use and have never had a problem rolled the edge on any of them
Haha I didn’t notice that…what a turd. No wonder he has been banned from other forums. Certainly Blade Forums doesn’t tolerate his nonsense stance on clones he likely got banned real quick.
You got me! I have a burner account for BLF. Retard.
I didn’t see anyone mention it, so… Benchmade’s patent on the axis lock ran out a year or two ago. They still own the rights to the name “Axis Lock”, but anyone can now legally use the lock design so long as they don’t call it an Axis Lock.
There’s no patent issue here. A case can be made for IP theft, but I don’t know if there is anything that can be done about someone copying a pointy knife shape. Can’t most knives claim influence from another’s idea to some extent? I am vaguely agnostic to this so long as the maker isn’t claiming the knife (whatever) is brand XYZ when in fact it’s brand POS and not made by XYZ.
GANZO was utilizing the AXIS lock back in 2016, well before BM’s patent expired on 7/12/16 (12:00:01 am), so there was theft there.
Now, it’s just a question of other seller’s (or Ganzo) using the word ‘AXIS’ to describe the knife in question’s locking mechanism, which would still be a ‘trademark/TM’ violation, which didn’t expire on that date.
Hey, if you all want to support a company engaging in bona fide patent theft, that’s on you.
I think that I’ll look elsewhere, but that’s just me.
Chris
Exactly my point.
Tagged.
Chris
You are not tall enough for this ride. You don’t even understand what is being argued here.
I've never seen a production Cryo II G-10...
Only custom, or Cryo G-10.
Is that one new?
My most favorite Kershaw knives are all made in the USA.
Kershaw Leek 1660, Link 1776GRYBW, and Dividend 1812GRY.
I also like a bunch that are made in China.
They're almost as good, and cheaper.
If you want, I can list the Chinese-made ones that I like.
No, I’m just an idiot. I meant the Cryo with G10 scales. I’m all ears on suggestions. One of my boys saw the brawler and said he liked it. I don’t like Tanto blades, but this isn’t for me.
The Brawler is good, but it isn't one of my favorites.
I created a thread that lists my 13 faves:
Really sad to see the skyline isn’t on there. But, it’s not assisted opening.
Before the skyline, about once a year, sometimes sooner, I would get a new knife. Usually a Kershaw or Benchmade, and always assisted. After we had our daughter I really wanted a new knife, and saw the skyline on sale. Wasn’t assisted, but said what the heck, I’ll give it a shot. Glad I did, because 6 years now and it’s still one of my favorites