Closed Official Haikelite MT09R *UPDATE Now including TA's Pricing for Emitter Upgrades* Closed

Here are a couple of beam shots from the 35 high I did a couple of days ago and I am just now getting caught up enough to post them...

The first 3 minutes or so are more me talkng so move up to around 3 minutes or so and you will see some beam shots.

Now it is late Saturday night. I am going to clock out.

432yds, and a declaration that the XHP35 is a total success? How about the 1km claimed? Seriously, 432yds? My $30 UT02 will do that.

Friday night we tested my MT09R XHP35 Hi from this GB and a Haikelite MT07s. The MT07s has a bit higher range, but the beam of the MT09R is much wider.
My luxmeter shows 220.000 candela for MT07s and 196.500 candela (MT09R:6meter, Sony VTC6) for my MT09R (NW, but it looks like CW).
Our second luxmeter shows 27% more candela ! But my luxmeter compared with many other luxmeter and shows the same candela for many other flashlights like other TLF users had detected.
For example:
Astrolux MF02NW: 422.640 cd (6 meter, Samsung –30Q)
Acebeam K60: 144.000 cd (6 meter, Imalent MRB186-P30)
Imalent DT35: 121.320 cd (6 meter, Imalent MRB186-P30)
Jetbeam T6: 129.600 cd (6 meter, Imalent MRB186-P30)
Klarus G35: 195.000 cd (6 meter, Imalent MRB186-P30, is very sensitive with different batteries!!)
Utorch UT02 NW and CW: 86.000 cd (1 meter, with different batteries)

Greets
Carsten

Terry Could You tell me what color temperature has WW, NW, CW?
It would by good to add it to the first post.

Is it even possible for triple XHP35 emitters CW to even reach 1000m range in this kind of light ?

Been waiting over two days for refund since Dale offered…

After about how many seconds/minutes on turbo should it (70.2) step down?

You guys are wrong or maybe not doing it righ. Let me present you my observation.
Haikelite mt09r xhp70.2 CW. Use infrared temp to get the reading next to the switch.
All are in fahrenheit… yes. This light have an automatic step down.

I turn on light to high mode.
Initial temp. 63 fahrenheit
1 min. 80
2 min, 93.5
3 min. 104
4 min. 110.5
5 min. 111
6 min. 111
7 min. 112.5
8 min. 113.5
9 min. 115.5
10 min. 115.5

I could feel step down after 3 min., slow shift. My eyes wouldnt notice. This light is not hot… handle was 93. After 10 minutes, i double click. Then it go back go bright high mode.

Conclusion. My light have authmatic thermal step down.

I don’t quite understand. If there was a step-down after 3 minute as you say, why isn’t that recorded in your minutes/temp? Am I missing something? Thanks.

Newlumen, I think you are right. I think I just don’t notice the stepdown because the eye is not reliable for lumen measurements. Also mine gets pretty darn hot under extended use on max brightness but not dangerously hot like some people report here. I guess it may have some form of thermal protection. If that’s the case, then that makes this light even more impressive considering how much better it can maintain useable high output compared to other lights with thermal regulation.

I said i feel like the light step down after 3 minutes. My eyes couldnt tell. It was slowly step down… i didnt see any flicks while the light step down…

I will do 10 minutes high test again on monday night using fully charged 18650, and i will also record lux number as well…

I know my light have thermal protection, because temp are 115.5 fahrenheit…

The MT09RT has a tripod socket.

I have used some of my other similarly equipped lights as a photography source for up to an hour. I don't run them in turbo mode as I don't want them changing or doing radical step downs while I'm shooting, so I usually select the level below maximum/turbo. I've never bothered to measure how hot they got as I was always comfortable grabbing them when it was time to switch them off.

Not so with my XHP35 MT09R. I set it on the the 4th step in Group 5 (the one below Maximum/Turbo) when doing a battery test. and it hit 151° F (66.1° C) after 20 minutes (measured with an accurate Fluke IR thermometer with emissivity set properly). That's certainly above the stated 55° C thermal regulation spec, and in the realm of burned skin and decreased Li-ion battery longevity.

I haven't run/tested mine on Turbo for any extended period of time because that's generally not the way I use my lights.

Does thermal regulation possibly only work on the maximum (Turbo) setting? Or only on (some) XHP70.2 MT09Rs?

  • Finally got my MT09R NW. The head does get warm fast. i cant wait to for night test.

here are my ceiling bounce measurement.

MT03 = 590 Lux (Gen 2 i think running XHP 70)
MF01 running NarsilM = 880 Lux
MT09R = 1060 Lux
Convoy L6 NarsilM 280Lux.

So here is my conclusion. Both version of mt09r will step down after 2 minutes from the high, and maintain at the medium mode for long period of time.,

It’s been 3 days since I emailed Dale and still no answer

I have an MF01 being shipped to Lexel to swap out the driver for the NarsilM. How do you like it? How does it compare with the MT09R? I read the lumens on the 219C version is 12k+ or more.

nice but what does lux translate to lumens ? i hope u do a video review of the light i look forward to that.

Hi

A forum member asked me to do the temperature test to see if it has thermal step down so here are my results:

My light version is XHP 70.2

Initial temp 26.5 degrees taken at the head

at 30 seconds = 39 degrees
at 1 minute = 49.5 degrees
at 1.5 minute = 56.5 degrees
at 2 minutes = 62.5 degrees
at 2.5 minutes = 67.5 degrees

I terminated the test at this point as the temperature keep rising and I dont want to take further risk.

My conclusion is that this light doesn’t have thermal stepdown but im not fuss. I can always ramp down if it gets too hot.

Same with my light, after 2 min i can also feel it must be around 65c or more then i ofc step down to lowest or so, but its weird if some lights has it and some not ?

I’ve had a problem with thermal regulation on my MT02. The light worked fine for a while (normal use outside), and I can feel thermal step down working, because the light would slightly reduce in temperature. The problem was that LVP would kick in too early at around 3.7V. I contacted Banggood and they asked me to do a runtime test. So while I was doing the runtime test, I checked the light after a while and it was blistering hot and the emitter was fried.
So sometimes thermal management worked, and at one point it didn’t.