Closed Official Haikelite MT09R *UPDATE Now including TA's Pricing for Emitter Upgrades* Closed

The modes sets would be the standard Narsil mode sets with some minor tweaks. If someone has a suggestion for the modes let me know.

The mode sets is something I still need to work on, I never use them myself, I will not use anything but ramping for an e-switch light now day.

Also I didn’t mention it earlier but due to the heat issues the ramp will now stop before you reach 100% with double click turbo giving you the full power. Just like on the GT. By stepping down the power you can vastly reduce overheating and battery life with only a fairly minor effect on brightness.

This sounds very promising, thanks! Sorry for the dumb question, but does the new driver apply to both the 35 HI and 70.2 versions?

I second this question!
Especially for the 35 HI, what do you think about the possible lumens output for the 3 emitters? The 70.2 should easily achieve 15k lumens with your proper driver. (as it already has now)

They currently have the xhp70.2 running in 6V and the xhp35 is 12v. So it will need slight changes to some components and firmware but the same driver will be used in both versions.

Can you perhaps comment on functionality of the illuminated button? Thanks!

The 70.2 version will be limited by the springs, with a spring bypass over 15k should be fairly simple with the stock LED’s.

The xhp35’s are limited by being a fairly low bin, they just don’t really have much more to give. I am actually having to figure out what to set the max to on them now. I will be gone for the day, I will give more details when I return later.

It will work just like all other NarsilM lights such as the Q8 and GT. The firmware is the same. Just customized for the output and LED setup.

It will loose the 2 LED colors but otherwise will still show things like low voltage and be a locator ect.

It will also drain much less power due to being run at a much better current.

On another note the momentary mode is a lot of fun with 23k lumens on tap. :smiling_imp:

Wow. Now I finally have to do my homework and study NarsilM… I read about a cheat sheet or something… Really looking forward. A light as attractive to hold and look at like the MT09R deserves a rock solid performing driver. :smiley:

I don’t know what the updated Haikelite driver is going to be, but once this is exactly known you could make a poll comparing the new stock driver to your version of it, and ask if and how much people are willing to spend extra on it or something like that.
A poll gives decent insight that could persuade Haikelite.
You already have my attention. :sunglasses: :beer:

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Do you also happen to have done measurements on the stock MT09R 35 and 70 in terms of lumens?

23k on the 4000k 80CRI version is insane. I tested the 5000k version at 2,170lux compared to 4000k version at 1,640lux, which is 32% brighter so a 5000k with your new driver can reach 30.4k lumens??!!! holy cow! I can’t wait to see the new version! I also hope Haikelite will offer the 4000k 80CRI too. I’ll buy another one even if the price is higher since we are in DX80 and X80 territory but I like the beam on the MT09R better. Beam looks so beautiful especially with DC-Fix applied.

I can’t really follow your theory here… We’re talking about the XHP70.2 4000k with 3 emitters producing 23k lumen? That’s more than 7500 lumen per LED. Why should the 5000k neutral white LED now get close to 30k lumen? Won’t 10k lumen fry the LED? Is this even possible? The DX80 has 8 70.2 to achieve 32k lumen…

Yea i dont think that is physically possible with only 3 xhp70.2. but nice to dream about

TA, I am in for one of the drivers for the 70.2! Just message me how to order whenever you are ready.

Thanks for your work on this!

The R&D and testing from Texas Ace (Fellow Texan, here!) is encouraging…but how does it impact those of us who purchased through the group buy?

My 70.2 light is semi functional - All modes work, no glitches, but one LED never turns off :rage: Its on moonlight mode until I physically unscrew the battery tube.
Does this qualify me for a new driver? It would seem cheaper for Haikelite to send me an updated Texas Ace Driver than for me to initiate a return and reshipment from China.

Regardless, I would like to get my problem fixed and also max out the potential for the light.
Include me in a driver buy from Texas Ace if Haikelite won’t make it right.

And where’s my paid-for charger???

Yes, Narsil is great. The cheat sheet is here: New BLF GT Narsil M Cheat Sheet for v1.2 NEW VERSION

The driver itself would only have minor changes. The bigger changes would be to the light itself. If they built what I have in mind it should be over 25k lumens and shed heat MUCH better along with some other smaller changes to improve the design.

Stock xhp70.2 was a bit under 15k lumens on my meter and the xhp35 was around 6k lumens on my meter.

With the new driver the stock XHP70.2 did around ~16-17k lumens and with the new 80CRI M4 70.2 LED’s it does around 23k lumens. With P2 bin 70cri emitters it should do a bit more then that.

Yeah, the tint on this light is great. The 5000k version would give more but not that much more. Should be around ~25k lumens if I had to guess. You are reaching the limits of the batteries at that point.

Yes, DC-Fix is great on this light, I am going to be doing the same on mine.

The xhp70.2 can technically hit over 10k lumens for a few seconds but as it heats up the lumens drop down to around 9k. Although with 3 of them the batteries are the limiting factor.

Also the cooler tint will read higher on the meter all else being equal due to our cheap meters being biased.

I can’t speak for what Haikelite plans to do but I get the sense they plan to replace drivers in lights that have issues.

What a great news. Well done! Texas_Ace.
I think many will look forward to purchase of MT09R with newly improved driver and design.