I might have missed this but what is Dale’s email address? Since it seems like we are supposed to address our warranty issues with him directly instead of Terry.
This was said during the group buy feeler 12/18/2017:
The current driver is not a TA driver:
http://haikelite.top/product/html/?14.html
Thanks
Now I can't help anything on the original website but, please do not include this thread as having said that.
It was referred to as a TA style driver. I knew when I saw it that is was not an original TA design. So in the group buy if you saw or read me refer to the driver it was as a TA style driver.
You might find a single comment out of thousands that I happen to be in a hurry and did not type the word style. It check the headline and you will see exactly how O described it.
I'm trying to figure out the point. TA has already stated 3 pages ago the question as to how close it was to one of his original drivers.
I have gone way past anything any dealer would ever dream of doing to make this as right as it can be made.
If you have a deficitive driver the company will ship you one once the design is complete.
What exactly is the point?
I've made sure that everyone will get what they deserve.
It's done... I called TA and he is designing a driver from top to bottom not just for me or even for everyone else. The company has contracted him to complete his design.
Can I ask please... What more could anyone possibly ask for. I've got a whole corner in my shop of screwed up lights that never worked from the day I got them. And these are Major brands first edition lights.
How many did a dealer or the company spend huge amounts of money to make good on any of them... zero not one of them.
This case is different. The company has listened. They are not only paying for a better driver design but an original TA driver and they are actually going to make good on any mistakes made.
There is also a massive translation issue. To them the word style or type or close to is not something simple to translate and word corrections have to be made all the time.
I read the users manual 5 times before it was finally printed and I am sure there are still corrections that could be made just due to translation issues.
The reason I will defend it... simple... they are owning the issues and not only correcting them but correcting them by having one of the best in the business do the job.
I get copied on most of the email between TA and Haikelite and TA has made it very clear. It can only be done one way and that is the right way. Down to the brand of components used. So it will be a rock solid design and provided the promise of using only components TA approves or recommends it will be produced just as rock solid.
I'm not angry, defensive, or even upset. What I am is very disappointed.
Show me any dealer or company that has gone to these lengths to make good on a product?
All of these people coming together as a team to make corrections and give customers a very high quality product.
By the way:
If somebody wants to buy one of the special coloured MT09R, they are actually sold on aliexpress:
No.. only warranty issues if you purchased from me directly. I will of course still repair anything here in the U.S. but it has to approved by Haikelite so they can ship me any parts needed.
I think people may be confused in this way:
Texas Ace is building an awesome driver and will address all issues.
Haikelite has promised an improved driver.
Maybe people are thinking it is two different drivers, and that the Haikelite driver would just be an improvement on their first driver.
It sounds now like Texas Ace’s driver will be the new driver that Haikelite ships as their improved driver.
People are very excited about this light with its awesome machining and specs to be using the Texas Ace driver with Narsil!
Good luck getting Aliexpress shipping you a new driver or warranty at all of any kind...
You may be right.
These will be one in the same driver. The only difference is I did ask him to build me enough himself in order or offer a handful of lights to anyone wanting them and getting them a good deal sooner than the mass produced drivers completion.
But, you are correct. Haikelite contracted him soon after I asked him for advice.
To be specific, I was referring to this GB for the MT09R. So for this GB, any warranty issues will be handled by Dale and not Terry, correct? Since the lights were shipped from overseas, instead within the U.S.(Terry).
If you are in the US and Dale approves it then I can do repairs.
TA, I took a look at the Cree XHP70.2 product sheet and I’m kind of confused with your statement. You used the 80CRI M4 bin to achieve 23k while the stock XHP70.2 would be about 16-17k. But the M4 bin is the lowest bin for 4000k 80CRI. Did you meant the stock 4000k emitters used the M4 bin while you used the more efficient N2 bin?
My guess is that it’s not about efficacy; a higher bin will result in more output with the same current. I think what Texas Ace wanted to achieve was the highest output as a result of lowest Vf, which is the main variable with FET driven lights. So the emitters he used had the lowest Vf for max output, and max current.
The stock LED’s are very low bin, not sure exactly but my guess is a fair amount lower then M4. This is not uncommon for China flashlights to buy up the LED’s that didn’t make the cut for other uses. They work fine, just not as much output or not the right tint to be worth selling to a major contract.
The other factor is indeed as was stated above, I am pulling around 40A vs the stock LED’s pulling around ~30A.
So that is an extra ~50-60W worth of power that will naturally equal more output. Although even with all that extra power, the new 80CRI LED’s are still more efficient then the stock LED’s (around 75lm/W for stock vs ~88lm/W for my 80CRI).
Which suggests that the stock LED’s are 1 or 2 bins lower then the 80CRI I am using now.
With P2 bin emitters it should make even more then mine is now but I much prefer the 80cri LED’s myself. They look much better.
^ So Vf is the same for all different output bins as long as the emitter is XHP70.2?
TA, can I be notified when your 70.2 driver is available to purchase?
The Vf does indeed vary a lot between bins, that is where a lot of my extra lumens are coming from but the fact that the 80CRI LEd’s are more efficient at higher power levels, means they are also higher bin then the stock LED’s.
Basically the new 80CRI LED’s both have a lower vf and higher bin which translates to higher efficiency and higher lumens then the stock LED’s.
I picked them mostly due to the very low Vf to stress the driver as hard as possible. The fact they are the best XHP70.2 I have seen yet is a bonus.
I will post in this thread and start a new thread when they are ready. If all goes well they should be ready around the end of the week.